NFL owners don't get it...

[Carolina Husker]

Great article.

[Jackofalltrades]

From what I've read, the 8th circuit court can only overturn her decision if they can show she exceeded her authority in the matter, this is a matter of legal precedent rather than politics and opinion.

[countryboi]

today i learned that while the NFL is subjected to anti trust laws baseball is not... how in the hell did that happen?

[Highlandfire]

One pro union liberal judge gave the players what they want. You could tell in her statement she was very pro union not even will to admit that the owners had a defense. A more conservative court will see it in a different light.

It doesn't matter. Do we agree it was her personal bias that led to the ruling? YES!

Problem is...the law. The law says the owners are fuged. They most likely will lose on appeal as the lady said as their entire argument fly's in the face of the belief system many of the conservative judges hold dear. But that aside, Nelson's judgment in the way it was worded and crafted will be virtually impossible to beat on appeal because she didn't greatly err in her LEGAL findings and ruling.

Look its over, plain and simple as much as I hate it, its over. The Owners are going to have to deal with giving the players 50% of the overall or they will lose everything. The only option is to shut down completely and reform a different way which is two leagues or they will be under anti trust law again because they will be a monopoly.

I agree the owners take the risk, I agree they take hits on the costs, but the law is the law and its on the players side.

[Highlandfire]

From what I've read, the 8th circuit court can only overturn her decision if they can show she exceeded her authority in the matter, this is a matter of legal precedent rather than politics and opinion.

And unfortunately she didn't. Having represented employees against the man before she knew exactly how to craft her ruling so it couldn't be overturned.

Again when you are a monopoly you are screwed law wise. The only out is to split the league so the players can shop their skills to two different leagues with essentially the same money paid out.

[Carolina Husker]

lol WE'RE GONNA TAKE THIS LEAGUE BACK

[mwright350]

Yes, stand in their corner so this can keep on going, and going, and going. F**K them. Im on that side that gets us football now, asap. and gets us in camp, and lets us sign Free Agents. fug this bickering bullpoo.

That could be a really short sighted way of thinking. The side that gets us football now could very well ruin football down the road.

I'm all for football right now but all I have seen from the players* thus far has been a desire to remove the things that make the NFL so good. If they get their full list of demands now we will end up with the NFL MLB style, we'll end up with the NFL recruiting directly on college campuses, and most importantly smaller market teams will end up in the toilet.

I'm on the side of the NFL as an institution - not the side of the players OR the owners specifically. To that end I'll back whichever side I think will give us the best product over a long period of time. Right now I think that's the owners...

*I realize that not all of the players feel this way but they are being represented by a group that apparently do.

[Carolina Husker]

Again, the owners locked them out. None of this matters had they just come back with the current CBA that was working for everyone.

[Highlandfire]

We the Fans need to start our own organization that will boycott if they dont reach a CBA. We are the most powerful party in the NFL and I would imagine no fan wants to see there team close up shop.

No one says we are obligated to buy tickets or anything. Not even those wicked PSLs do that. We could just abstain from going to all games and bring the owners and the players to there knees.

Bud I wish we could but 90% of all fans just want football. They are too lazy or stupid to care about the ramifications of how things now will effect things later.

Years from now when it all goes tits up they will be screaming 'how did this happen I just want football'. Well assclowns it's because you didn't have the balls to just boycott one full season to ensure the game for decades to come.

[Jackofalltrades]

And unfortunately she didn't. Having represented employees against the man before she knew exactly how to craft her ruling so it couldn't be overturned.

Again when you are a monopoly you are screwed law wise. The only out is to split the league so the players can shop their skills to two different leagues with essentially the same money paid out.

So is it the law or her liberal bias that determined the ruling?

You can't claim both.

[blackcatgrowl]

If it is a fact that the players have legal leverage enough to force their employers to let them work in a business they ave nothing invested in we are living in a sad world.

In the end the owners hold the cards and the players know it. We may be on the verge of a very weird time in the NFL and quite possibly nearing the shear cliff its about to fall off of for good

This is exactly correct.

[stirs]

Screw em. They are "owners". It is theirs. They built a great product. It is America. If you build a great product, you should not have someone else tell you how to run your company. On principal, I think the owners should shut it down until further notice. Let D Smith "dig" that.

[Carolina Husker]

Some of you are clearly selective readers.

[Jackofalltrades]

Screw em. They are "owners". It is theirs. They built a great product. It is America. If you build a great product, you should not have someone else tell you how to run your company. On principal, I think the owners should shut it down until further notice. Let D Smith "dig" that.

If the owners were the people fans pay to see I'd be inclined to agree, but they're not.

Without the players there's no league either.