Roger Goodell: Football's Future If the Players Win

[riddel]

This is why we have a lock-out because the owners say it is the highest and the players point to your stat. The 57% NBA number is why there will be a lock-out next year.

You said that you know the law......look up the legal reasons a company can seek a lockout. The NFL can not lockout the players unless they are suffering financial losses, period. If and when the NFL owners are exposed, the lockout will be exposed for what it is, a negotiation tactic. Once that happens, the NFL owners will be in a world of poo.

[riddel]

I don't know Dick, how many? Oh that's right none because they haven't lost in court yet. And that 'value' of 1 billion, is pure bullpoo and if you don't know that you are too damn stupid to continue to debate this issue with. That 1 billion is pure smoke and mirrors.

Yeah....well the market bears all.....I dare you to call up Forbes and tell them they are full of bullpoo.....moron.

[Highlandfire]

the franchise is worth what someone will pay for it and the line won't be around the block if there is a work stoppage and the players are pulling out all stops to show the owners who the real boss is and ensure that salaries will continue to increase while the economy that supports them continues to struggle.

Sorry but nobody is lining up for this. Nobody that is good for the league anyway.

And what Captain Clueless fails to realize is there are only a limited amount of people in the US capable of investing the money needed for an NFL team. That money will increase 10 fold if the employees win their suit!

We are going to see payrolls = 300 million plus just to compete if the players get their way. Nearly Triple what the cap is now. I know of at least 5 teams that will go tits up immediately. the what? Now there are 265 less roster spots for players to fill. What then? Do they sue the remaining teams saying they have to increase their roster limits or get sued for anti trust violations?

There isn't one intelligent person on the planet that would take over an NFL team under the coming conditions if they win. Billionaires got to be Billionaires because they are smart, investing in an NFL team under those conditions = pure stupidity.

[Highlandfire]

So you hope hundreds if not thousands of non-athlete employees get laid off just to teach the players a lesson? Not to mention the larger economic impact and all the small businesses that will suffer. That's a pretty harsh thing to hope for.

Waah. It's a players argument. Yes regular people are going to lose their jobs it is what it is.

Hey, don't bitch at me call up D Smith and the NFLPA and tell them to stop fuging with the system. THEY are the ones going to wreck all of this.

[Highlandfire]

Yeah....well the market bears all.....I dare you to call up Forbes and tell them they are full of bullpoo.....moron.

No because they know the numbers are fluid and inflated by various conditions assclown

[riddel]

So you hope hundreds if not thousands of non-athlete employees get laid off just to teach the players a lesson? Not to mention the larger economic impact and all the small businesses that will suffer. That's a pretty harsh thing to hope for.

The dude is a moron. He doesn't get it. None of it.

[riddel]

No because they know the numbers are fluid and inflated by various conditions assclown

You are a joke.

[carolinarolls]

The players need to be 'hurt'. Every last one of them. Then maybe they will get a reality check and realize how great they have it. Just because most of them blow their money and feel entitled to lifestyles well beyond what most of us imagine doesn't = reality. I don't care how much money the business makes, no one should make more than 2 mill per tops as an NFL player. If you can't have an outstanding lifestyle on that AND set your ass up for life, I don't know what to tell you. Oh and if the careers are so short, maybe you should have gotten a degree (you know the free one you were given) in College that would have helped you to have a career post football. But no, players feel entitled they should work for a few years an retire unlilke all the rest of us

true. that is just not my goal. I don't want to see anybody get hurt. I am however appalled that in this economy the players cannot understand that there are concessions to be made by everyone and they are not above it.

Give us a couple more weeks guys and give us some time to evaluate how college knuckleheads with huge egos adjust to the league before we pay them 50 million dollars of money that may potentially affect your wallet as a veteran if they don't pan out. What is wrong with that?

Their answer is no. They blame health which is not legit. If you cannot do 18 you should not do 16. I don't care what anyone says about that. Then they don't really say much on this rookie cap. Why? Because the agents that show them how to hide money and keeps them out of jail won't get rich off these busts if they did agree with it.

I hated last year but I am glad we got rid of the majority of our premier vets. It shows me that we have an owner who is not going to bend on this on principle alone. He is the boss and while he does not want to lose ball games he has already shown us what he is willing to do if he cannot get the CBA he wants and that is to be the Tampa Rays of the NFL...Can't blame him. There is more than one way to skin a, ..well

[Highlandfire]

You are a joke.

Coming from some pisson on a message board in cyberspace that is a player kiss ass, yeah I am really offended.

Run along son.

[Tom]

Waah. It's a players argument. Yes regular people are going to lose their jobs it is what it is.

Hey, don't bitch at me call up D Smith and the NFLPA and tell them to stop fuging with the system. THEY are the ones going to wreck all of this.

I'm just wondering why you are hoping people lose their jobs. It seems to me that no matter which side you think is on the right that you would hope the matter gets settled with as little impact as possible.

Hoping all pro sports leagues shut down in order to weaken the players bargaining position is not a reasonable position.

[riddel]

true. that is just not my goal. I don't want to see anybody get hurt. I am however appalled that in this economy the players cannot understand that there are concessions to be made by everyone and they are not above it.

Give us a couple more weeks guys and give us some time to evaluate how college knuckleheads with huge egos adjust to the league before we pay them 50 million dollars of money that may potentially affect your wallet as a veteran if they don't pan out. What is wrong with that?

Their answer is no. They blame health which is not legit. If you cannot do 18 you should not do 16. I don't care what anyone says about that. Then they don't really say much on this rookie cap. Why? Because the agents that show them how to hide money and keeps them out of jail won't get rich off these busts if they did agree with it.

I hated last year but I am glad we got rid of the majority of our premier vets. It shows me that we have an owner who is not going to bend on this on principle alone. He is the boss and while he does not want to lose ball games he has already shown us what he is willing to do if he cannot get the CBA he wants and that is to be the Tampa Rays of the NFL...Can't blame him. There is more than one way to skin a, ..well

You are also a joke.

Neither of you are funny, you're like the really bad joke that nobody laughs at and makes everyone uncomfortable.

I think it's a great idea to pay $1000s of my hard earned dollars to watch a poo team teach the players a lesson. Dumbass!

[carolinarolls]

And what Captain Clueless fails to realize is there are only a limited amount of people in the US capable of investing the money needed for an NFL team. That money will increase 10 fold if the employees win their suit!

We are going to see payrolls = 300 million plus just to compete if the players get their way. Nearly Triple what the cap is now. I know of at least 5 teams that will go tits up immediately. the what? Now there are 265 less roster spots for players to fill. What then? Do they sue the remaining teams saying they have to increase their roster limits or get sued for anti trust violations?

There isn't one intelligent person on the planet that would take over an NFL team under the coming conditions if they win. Billionaires got to be Billionaires because they are smart, investing in an NFL team under those conditions = pure stupidity.

It is called robbing peter to pay paul and is a direct result of paying for rookies. What's more is that we have been bitten by this and all witnessed it with the 12mill payout to Jake all because contracts had to be shuffled around to make the money funny enough to fit guidelines.

It is stupid what this league has come to and it looks like the owners have bent about as far as they are willing to bend while the players and player reps keep pushing.

I can't wait for the big SNAP. It's inevitable.

[Highlandfire]

true. that is just not my goal. I don't want to see anybody get hurt. I am however appalled that in this economy the players cannot understand that there are concessions to be made by everyone and they are not above it.

Give us a couple more weeks guys and give us some time to evaluate how college knuckleheads with huge egos adjust to the league before we pay them 50 million dollars of money that may potentially affect your wallet as a veteran if they don't pan out. What is wrong with that?

Their answer is no. They blame health which is not legit. If you cannot do 18 you should not do 16. I don't care what anyone says about that. Then they don't really say much on this rookie cap. Why? Because the agents that show them how to hide money and keeps them out of jail won't get rich off these busts if they did agree with it.

I hated last year but I am glad we got rid of the majority of our premier vets. It shows me that we have an owner who is not going to bend on this on principle alone. He is the boss and while he does not want to lose ball games he has already shown us what he is willing to do if he cannot get the CBA he wants and that is to be the Tampa Rays of the NFL...Can't blame him. There is more than one way to skin a, ..well

The bottom line is there are true football fans that as adults and having managed or owned a business understand how bad this is and support the owners because the understand.

Then you have the typical fanatical clueless fan that is a player ass kisser that all they want is a season RIGHT NOW DAMN IT! and don't care that most likely the team they love will either fold or amount to poo when the new system hits if the greedy, spoiled asses get their way.

I am through arguing with the clowns. They won't ever stop kissing the players asses so its not worth my time

[g5jamz]

At the end of the day...we're still talking about people making lots of money playing a game.