Roger Goodell: Football's Future If the Players Win

[Highlandfire]

regulation is never the answer.

My building.

My license.

My business.

My Risk.

My decision.

If I take risk and open the doors to create all this revenue for so many people on the fringe and otherwise, I have every right to be as greedy or generous as I damn well please and no union crook is gonna tell me different unless he steps lightly and has something legit to beef about.

I can claim all my outstanding debt as reason to file bankruptcy and give a big middle finger to everybody involved if I own a business claiming an inability to see future revenue and/or benefit to stay in operation. I set the level of success for my business. I set what the margin has to be for me to continue operations.

If you are telling me that that my employees can get together, ask to see my books on my business and have some judge force me to remain open under the circumstances that they, the help, deem fair, I give you another example of a failing justice system in a litigious society.

Exactly. Hey I am all in favor of average Joe having rights and being able to go to work and not get fuged by the man, but these fuging clowns lost sight of reality a long time ago. They make in their average career of 3.5 years what it takes nearly 30 for us working folks to make, fug them.

I hope the owners fold up shop. It is out of hand, but Jerry Jones and others won't do it. I do see Ralph Wilson and a few others folding and they should. this free market system that will be in place will make it impossible for them to maintain a team.

[riddel]

let them sue

after I complete my contracted obligations there will be nothing left.

plus they still own the seat. go sit it in it all you want

If the owners purposely tank the PSL market, then they could be liable.

Then owners better hope they don't cross the TV networks, because if they tank the NFL and the networks lose revenues, then not only will they pay the $4 billion back, but they may face large lawsuits.

[Highlandfire]

The crooks are the ones claiming economic stress, while refusing to open the books to prove this stress....the fact is the lockout was a sham from the start to pressure players into a deal that puts more money in the owners pockets and places players at risk for two more games. UNLESS the owners can prove economic stress, then they have committed a crime by locking out the players. You can NOT claim you are suffering losses and lockout employees, if indeed you are not suffering those losses. The NFL is screwed when those books open.

Oh bull poo. your ass kissing of the players is sickening. There is no crime, there would be no lockout if the NFLPA hadn't decertified first. The NFLPA walked away from the table, not the owners.

Get this through your head, THEY ARE EMPLOYEES, NOT fuging PARTNERS!!! They have NO rights to any books, past financials, nothing.

I hope the owners fold the league and these overpaid punks have to fuging work for a living.

[Captain Obvious]

i'd rather kill NFL players than babies any day of the week. How do you compete with the big dogs? You sell shares and raise capital or fold. I'll still watch football no matter where the teams are and if there are only a handful of teams. T least the football will be watchable. Something it hasn't been around here for a few years.

[Highlandfire]

If the owners purposely tank the PSL market, then they could be liable.

Then owners better hope they don't cross the TV networks, because if they tank the NFL and the networks lose revenues, then not only will they pay the $4 billion back, but they may face large lawsuits.

For what? There is no league, who are the networks going to sue? And if they sue the NFL and the teams as entities file bankruptcy.

At what point will you get at anytime the NFL can flat fold and its over? There isn't a fuging thing anyone can do about it.

[riddel]

For what? There is no league, who are the networks going to sue? And if they sue the NFL and the teams as entities file bankruptcy.

At what point will you get at anytime the NFL can flat fold and its over? There isn't a fuging thing anyone can do about it.

You're clueless. The networks hold contracts with the NFL. They can't simply take their ball and go home. They would have to liquidate their assets and pay their debts.

[carolinarolls]

If the owners purposely tank the PSL market, then they could be liable.

Then owners better hope they don't cross the TV networks, because if they tank the NFL and the networks lose revenues, then not only will they pay the $4 billion back, but they may face large lawsuits.

Carolina did not get 4 billion. All big cat has to do is say he no longer sees profitability and file. He claims all his guaranteed contracts as debt, including severance packages and possibly even some psl (%of) refund. He can put them up for sale if he wants which will make things even more difficult in making these payouts. The owners have the options. Then there are 31 teams, a new schedule, and more problems.

Who is going to decide how much the Panthers are going to be liable for of that 4 billion and what in the hell could they possibly base it on?

No basis for any of this. One team could rock the boat a lot if DeMaurice keeps it up and unfortunately our owner is one of the most stubborn enough to do it.

[RHCPanther]

For what? There is no league, who are the networks going to sue? And if they sue the NFL and the teams as entities file bankruptcy.

At what point will you get at anytime the NFL can flat fold and its over? There isn't a fuging thing anyone can do about it.

Great. You think guys like Aaron Rodgers and Drew Brees won't get a chance to play the game again? They will and in all likelihood they will make just as much money. It does not matter if they change the name of the league.

It think it is fantastic that the owners are going to be sore losers and hurt everyone including themselves in the process. Just the example we need to set young people.

[riddel]

Carolina did not get 4 billion. All big cat has to do is say he no longer sees profitability and file. He claims all his guaranteed contracts as debt, including severance packages and possibly even some psl (%of) refund. He can put them up for sale if he wants which will make things even more difficult in making these payouts. The owners have the options. Then there are 31 teams, a new schedule, and more problems.

Who is going to decide how much the Panthers are going to be liable for of that 4 billion and what in the hell could they possibly base it on?

No basis for any of this. One team could rock the boat a lot if DeMaurice keeps it up and unfortunately our owner is one of the most stubborn enough to do it.

PERFECT!

Sell your boat if you can't afford the maintenance. A NFL team is a luxury. There are only 32 in the WORLD. Sell the team and let someone who wants to pay for that luxury enjoy it!

I could careless if Richardson has to flip 100 more hamburgers inorder to pay for the team, but the fact is he is making money, while enjoying the notoriety of owning 1 of 32 NFL teams.

The fact is a NFL team is luxury. Richardson, if you aren't making as much as you would like, then sell, but don't EVER show me a pie chart again, you country hillbilly! I don't give a poo, just pay what's necessary and put a winning product on the field or get the hell out!

[jtm]

This is more about the long-term success of the NFL v. greed. The per capita pay-out to players v. owners is higher in the NFL as compared to any other sport. You can't let your employees run your company.

[carolinarolls]

PERFECT!

Sell your boat if you can't afford the maintenance. A NFL team is a luxury. There are only 32 in the WORLD. Sell the team and let someone who wants to pay for that luxury enjoy it!

I could careless if Richardson has to flip 100 more hamburgers inorder to pay for the team, but the fact is he is making money, while enjoying the notoriety of owning 1 of 32 NFL teams.

The fact is a NFL team is luxury. Richardson, if you aren't making as much as you would like, then sell, but don't EVER show me a pie chart again, you country hillbilly! I don't give a poo, just pay what's necessary and put a winning product on the field or get the hell out!

You are forcing an owner's hand and some are just not gonna like it.

You are right, owning certain businesses are an honor but there comes a point where anything can become too much trouble for too little return.

But at least you have acknowledged that he can do this just like almost all the other majority owners and cripple any court-ordered opening. He can file at any point and severance the entire bank account if he wants to the staff.

The players do not have any right to anything. Especially since they aren't even a union anymore.

fvck 'em

[Highlandfire]

You're clueless. The networks hold contracts with the NFL. They can't simply take their ball and go home. They would have to liquidate their assets and pay their debts.

Sure they can it is done all the time. And as for as shut down I see them shutting down as it is now and finding a new Business model to bypass the issues that the EMPLOYEES are causing them now.

Split to the AFL/NFL again and that solves it. No more monopoly and the TV Networks can rework the deals. I can't see the owners losing in court then just going along with it and I will say again when this all broke down awhile back I heard rumors there was the possibility of something like them closing up shop happening

[riddel]

This is more about the long-term success of the NFL v. greed. The per capita pay-out to players v. owners is higher in the NFL as compared to any other sport. You can't let your employees run your company.

This is not an accurate statement.

NBA and NHL are around 57%. MLB is 51-61%. NFL is 53%.

http://www.ehow.com/info_8286300_percentage-professional-ball-players-owners.html

Furthermore, these percentages shared by the NFL owners do NOT include sponsors, naming rights and several other revenue boosters.

As far as running the company, the players have very little say in how the NFL operates, so I have no idea what you're talking about there.

[carolinarolls]

all sorts of businesses are reorganizing and families are getting crushed in the process.

why anyone would stick up for millionaires is beyond understanding.

The fact is that there are plenty of ways to beat the players as owners because they are players and not owners. I do not think that anyone will sell their franchise or individually shut down but it is possible and morons that still believe the help hjolds the cards are ignorant to how the world really works.