John Fox thinks we pass on Cam Newton

[Jackofalltrades]

I think Fox knows Cam is too big a risk for Hurney, both in terms of character concerns and transitioning to the NFL.

[PantherDude]

Fox is trying to mindf*** us so hard...

Be glad he isn't skullf--king us then. Which one would you take there?? :devil:

This should be easy to understand.

1. Fox wasn't critiquing Newton, just commenting that he didn't see him here

2. Fox sent 9 years here with Hurney, knows him as well as anyone in the league would, made decisions together, knows his philosophy, knows JR's philosophy and has no real incentive to hold back when talking about the Panthers now.

3. Gruden has never been associated with Hurney or the Panthers on top of never developing a good QB or drafting a good QB. Coincidence that TB lands a legit QB once Gruden is gone? I don't think so.

Yes, this is far more credible than Gruden's ratings fetcher on ESPN.

Word.

Did he suddenly figure out how to make adjustments? The only thing he has going for him is that he's playing in a pooty conference.

Get back to me after the upcoming season is over. The simple is: we don't know & haven't seen them play yet.

[Jaxel]

I hope Fox is right.

[PantherFan52]

This is the first thing i've agreed on with Foxy since........ Well, it's been a long time.

[nagai]

I know what Fox is saying, but people change, teams change. The firing of Fox, JR's speech, what Hurney has said... they're gonna be looking for a QB hard. People don't stay the same now Foxy, I am willing to bet that Hurney takes a QB with the 1st overall pick.

[teeray]

Fox should..

[ed bell]

After letting this all stew for a couple months, I think the Panthers pick Dareus....and I would agree with that pick..Fox summed it up

[frash.exe]

Fox's big board

1-100: Every RB, DL, LB prospect

100-: Everyone else

[PantherDude]

Fox should..

So.....people aren't allow to talk at all or express their honest opinion?? I thought we have what is called "Freedom of Speech" in the US. Shame some people can be kinda mean & tell people to STFU just because they don't agree with them or whatever. Guess Freedom of Speech only apply to anyone we agree or whatever. :redface:

[teeray]

So.....people aren't allow to talk at all or express their honest opinion?? I thought we have what is called "Freedom of Speech" in the US. Shame some people can be kinda mean & tell people to STFU just because they don't agree with them or whatever. Guess Freedom of Speech only apply to anyone we agree or whatever. :redface:

At least this is a little more polite :lol:

[jtnc]

So.....people aren't allow to talk at all or express their honest opinion?? I thought we have what is called "Freedom of Speech" in the US. Shame some people can be kinda mean & tell people to STFU just because they don't agree with them or whatever. Guess Freedom of Speech only apply to anyone we agree or whatever. :redface:

This is the "INTERNET" and telling someone to STFU is Freedom of Speech.

[BBQ&Beer]

So.....people aren't allow to talk at all or express their honest opinion?? I thought we have what is called "Freedom of Speech" in the US. Shame some people can be kinda mean & tell people to STFU just because they don't agree with them or whatever. Guess Freedom of Speech only apply to anyone we agree or whatever. :redface:

Unless teeray is a government official that is going to have Fox arrested, you guess right.

In fact, there are several situations in which I can silence Fox, or pretty much anyone else just because I don't like what they say.

Also they could do the same to me. If Zod or the mods decide to they can ban any one (or all) of us just because they don't like what we have to say, & the courts would support them for the most part.

[RHCPanther]

Given the amount of time and money spent on collecting data on the quarterbacks and analyzing them inside out, nobody can reasonably believe all this is simply smokescreen. Stating the obvious here but they are serious about taking a good look at the quarterbacks in the draft.

Now, does that mean that QB was always favorite to go #1? Perhaps. I can think of another possibility - they felt all along that QB was a huge reach at #1 in this draft. Fox probably knows better than anyone that Hurney hates to reach for players at the top of the draft. With QBs being particularly difficult to project, it would be even more difficult to buy into the player.

My guess is that Hurney and friends decided that they are going research QBs so thoroughly that they would have reasonable justification for passing on them. Iif they did not have reasonable justification for passing on one of the QBs, they would take him at #1.

And John Fox is probably thinks that Hurney probably has found enough justification to pass on guys like Newton and Gabbert.

[Ares d9]

Just saw it on NFL Network. He said, "I know Hurney, and I am not sold he will take Cam Newton. I think they will take Dareus". This would explain why the Broncos are looking for trade down options.. they don't think Dareus will be on the board. Anyways, thought that was interesting to hear Fox's take.

Fox is more knowledgable about our team needs than anyone.

#1 need solved: new HC