If Steve Smith is sent packing...

[TheRealDeal]

1 -Team sport. Requires team players if you want to be successful as a team.

2 - You can look at the top 5 greatest WR of all time (who most consider).....and there comes a time when the majority simply ain't worth keeping around for one reason or another........

3 - Smitty has only hit double digit TDs one time in his 10 yr career.

1. The sport doesn't require players to coach, this isn't intramural softball or Michael Jordan's dirty fantasy.

2. You can look at our roster and see there simply isn't anyone worth covering after Smith.

3. He hasn't had Moore for a full season

[rodeo]

We have to get rid of our good WRs so we provide every opportunity for Cam to fail.

[TruCatzFan]

I wouldn't put him in the McDaniels and Shanahan category. They think they know better than anyone else. I don't see Ron as that kind of coach.

I completely agree with you!

[CRA]

1. The sport doesn't require players to coach, this isn't intramural softball or Michael Jordan's dirty fantasy.

2. You can look at our roster and see there simply isn't anyone worth covering after Smith.

3. He hasn't had Moore for a full season

1. again, team sport. The goal of football is to win....and if you are the only legitimate WR on a team and want nothing to do with 3 rookies that speaks about what kind of player you are.

further, as his talent goes down and his antics remain the same...he starts flat out hurting the team. It is the same principle why all time greats get let go for nothing.

2. again, 3 rookies last year. Claiming that doesn't mean anything

3. lol.....pretty sure his numbers are almost identical in games w/ Moore as they were with Jake.

people get to hung up on...."player X should retire a Panther". Reality is you just want most guys playing for you in there prime and slightly after....then move on.

[Snake]

Who?

[CRA]

Who?

Steven Smith.

[TheRealDeal]

1. again, team sport. The goal of football is to win....and if you are the only legitimate WR on a team and want nothing to do with 3 rookies that speaks about what kind of player you are.

further, as his talent goes down and his antics remain the same...he starts flat out hurting the team. It is the same principle why all time greats get let go for nothing.

2. again, 3 rookies last year. Claiming that doesn't mean anything

3. lol.....pretty sure his numbers are almost identical in games w/ Moore as they were with Jake.

people get to hung up on...."player X should retire a Panther". Reality is you just want most guys playing for you in there prime and slightly after....then move on.

How does #2 not matter. If we let Smith go, our only receiving threat, we then can literally put 10 people in the box and beat us.

I get it. You aren't emotional about players.

Neither am I. I know he's down from the superstar he was but he is still productive, isn't that bad in the locker room, and is of more value to our team than he is to any other team so our compensation isn't enough.

[CRA]

How does #2 not matter. If we let Smith go, our only receiving threat, we then can literally put 10 people in the box and beat us.

I get it. You aren't emotional about players.

Neither am I. I know he's down from the superstar he was but he is still productive, isn't that bad in the locker room, and is of more value to our team than he is to any other team so our compensation isn't enough.

it would be like bragging Matt Moore is the best QB on the team when his competition is Jimmy Clausen and Tony Pike. It doesn't mean much about Moore in the grand scheme of things.

What is our record in games without Steve Smith since Double Trouble was formed? 3-1 or something?

I think it is debatable how "bad" he is on the lockerroom. Just watch him on the field....does he make rough scenarios better or worse?

[TheRealDeal]

It doesn't mean a lot in the grand scheme of things but it means a lot to our team.

You don't let your best players walk for nothing, ESPECIALLY when you have poo behind them.

[Snake]

Steven Smith.

You mean Stevonne Smith?

[TheRealDeal]

I think it is debatable how "bad" he is on the lockerroom. Just watch him on the field....does he make rough scenarios better or worse?

Now he has to be cheerleader too? He probably wants to leave because he's not getting paid like a Head Coach/WR Coach/Veteran Pro Bowl Wide Receiver/Cheerleader should.

He can't be fuking human and want to win and be frustrated that the FO wasted his season by picking Jimmy fuking Clausen in the draft?

He wants to win. With that fire comes frustration. That fire has led to more good than bad for the Panthers.

[CRA]

It doesn't mean a lot in the grand scheme of things but it means a lot to our team.

You don't let your best players walk for nothing, ESPECIALLY when you have poo behind them.

there is a difference between being a talented player and one of your teams best players.

Terrell Owens, Randy Moss, etc. have always been talented players......they weren't the best players for their teams.

[TheRealDeal]

And steve is nothing like them

[OneBadassCat]

Since they have already met and discussed. I would say Smith and Rivera both have their terms, and if they can't compromise then I think it's a mutual decision between the two and I will respect both of their decisions. If it was a Rivera kicking him to the curb scenario(which i dont see happening) then I would be biased towards Smith.

I think from Smith's point of view he's facing a very critical time in his career. He's gone from being one of the best to being wasted the last two years because of Jake D. and a poo offense. I can only speculate what's going on in his head but I would imagine it's something like this:

1. Do I stay in Charlotte with the Panthers, play out my career and enjoy my time. Eventually pass the reigns to Gettis probably and be content with the possibility that Rivera's team may take 2-3 years to be a top or even competitive team.

Or

2. Do I take my chance with another team. Possibly a team where I know the QB situation is stable. Give it my all and aim to be the best while I still can.

I think the situation is really personal to him because you have to imagine what it's like to be Smitty vs. all the other Top 10 WR's, and all the other CB's that have so called been able to "shut him down" because Jake and Clausen would throw a pick or overlook him. You know that must eat him up inside.

Smith wants to prove himself and he still wants to show that he's great. That's why I love him. If not this would be a non issue.