The final case for Cam Newton

[mav1234]

We have a winner!

To you it may be "stupid poo". If it had been my daughter, one way or another, he would have suffered some bodily harm.

ok tough guy that's fine, but you need to stop reading into things. "stupid poo" was meant to cover the fact I didn't recall what he did and was too lazy to look it up.

he says he accidentally mooned his trainer intending to moon a college teammate. she says he shoved his ass in her face then sat on her face while she was checking a pain in his foot. ... really strange, either way.

edit: found some links, reading 'em over

[Marguide]

Oh Manning, when he mooned her? or did he actually sit on her face?

Who knows for sure other than the people involved, and they aren't talking per the terms of the court settlement.

When this first came to light, the word was that he sat on her face.

Here's an article on the settlement:

http://www.usatoday.com/sports/football/nfl/colts/2003-12-25-manning-lawsuit_x.htm

But Peyton's the all-american boy, so no one pays this much attention.

[Verge]

Seems more like a weird fetish than a character issue lol

[mav1234]

She didn't bring it into the public spotlight even until the Mannings wrote a book that mentioned it.

From reading over stuff, I don't think Manning was the only "complaint" she had about sexual harassment. In her lawsuit she only went after him for that one incident but she got the University to pay her for multiple incidents, seemingly with various students. Pretty sad kind of stuff happens :(

Luckily, it seems Manning has kept his nose... or his ass, anyway... out of trouble since then. Hopefully Cam has proven to have also taken a step out of the 'immaturity of youth.'

[Verge]

"The mooning incident was among numerous claims of sexual harassment Naughright cited in a complaint against the University of Tennessee. "

Ehhh, seems like someone wanted some money rather than this actually being an issue.

[Marguide]

Regarding character questions, I don't need to say another word.

Some of you prove the point better than I ever could.

[Sword]

kids do stupid sh$%!..why is this a surprise to anyone?

[Verge]

how does cam have family issues??? his dad shoped him around(not proven at auburn) but does that mean his dad beats his wife or touches on cam? other than that cam clearly comes from a good background and stable family. lol verge is going to really have a problem on the 28th. Were not taking gabbert or dareus face it.

He is to loyal to his scum bag of a father, family issue. His father has some serious issues and Cam will follow his dad to the edge of a cliff from what I have seen.

And no, even if somehow Cam was the pick I would not throw anything or yell, I would shrug and watch the rest of the draft. Good thing he is not going to be the pick, I promise you that.

[Verge]

Regarding character questions, I don't need to say another word.

Some of you prove the point better than I ever could.

Scouts didn't seem to care about Manning mooning someone and other than him pulling down his pants at one time in college he is squeaky clean and has an unquestioned leadership and work ethic.

IN EVERY SCOUTING REPORT THERE ARE NOTED CHARACTER ISSUES ON CAM AND IT HAS SHOWED AS A REPEAT ISSUE.

There is a difference don't pull that "You just ignore Mannings issue because he is a golden boy and Cam is black/different/you're a cam hater, so you'll pull anything out on him"

I have heard that bull poo enough, EVERYONE who is not slobbering over Cams nuts sees the character stuff as an issue.

[mav1234]

Seems more like a weird fetish than a character issue lol

It's a red flag. but, like Cam's stuff, if you investigate it and it's nothing but something that happenedi n the past and the person grew from it, you move on and hope that it is just something in the past.

I don't think his father is "scum," he's just trying to do what he thinks is right for his family.

What a lot of us hate to admit is how prevalent the pay to play stuff is. IMO, what his father did was cover for him so his son could finish his season. Up to you as to what you think of that exactly, but yah. I was disappointed that Cam said he didn't know about it because that astonished me but maybe it was the truth.

Warren Moon has said the real truth will come out... made it sound like this was all because certain people had their "feelings hurt" or whatever. we'll probably know after the draft what really happened.

[Sword]

Scouts didn't seem to care about Manning mooning someone and other than him pulling down his pants at one time in college he is squeaky clean and has an unquestioned leadership and work ethic.

IN EVERY SCOUTING REPORT THERE ARE NOTED CHARACTER ISSUES ON CAM AND IT HAS SHOWED AS A REPEAT ISSUE.

There is a difference don't pull that "You just ignore Mannings issue because he is a golden boy and Cam is black/different/you're a cam hater, so you'll pull anything out on him"

I have heard that bull sh*t enough, EVERYONE who is not slobbering over Cams nuts sees the character stuff as an issue.

so why do you still argue with us if you are so certain he's not going to be the pick anyway?

[Verge]

so why do you still argue with us if you are so certain he's not going to be the pick anyway?

Because you guys keep posting stuff about him and I am bored

=P

[Marguide]

Scouts didn't seem to care about Manning mooning someone and other than him pulling down his pants at one time in college he is squeaky clean and has an unquestioned leadership and work ethic.

IN EVERY SCOUTING REPORT THERE ARE NOTED CHARACTER ISSUES ON CAM AND IT HAS SHOWED AS A REPEAT ISSUE.

There is a difference don't pull that "You just ignore Mannings issue because he is a golden boy and Cam is black/different/you're a cam hater, so you'll pull anything out on him"

I have heard that bull poo enough, EVERYONE who is not slobbering over Cams nuts sees the character stuff as an issue.

Is your memory that short? You put the challenge out there, and I responded to it.

Now you want to get all pissy because someone called you on your nonsense?

[Verge]

Is your memory that short? You put the challenge out there, and I responded to it.

Now you want to get all pissy because someone called you on your nonsense?

I want to get all pissy because of your other comment, not because you challeneged me with some bull about Manning mooning someone.