Newton only similar to one successful QB in last 5 years..

[TheRealDeal]

I have never lied about Clausen though.

He does know how to diagnose plays, executing them is one thing but at least he can talk about them. Cam's was like watching The Situation at the Roast of Donald Trump, just brutal.

[CRA]

I have never lied about Clausen though.

He does know how to diagnose plays, executing them is one thing but at least he can talk about them. Cam's was like watching The Situation at the Roast of Donald Trump, just brutal.

So, Clausen should go coach high school football or something.

Auburn didn't run a complex system.....so what. They didn't need one. Why get complex when you don't need to. They went undefeated and won a NC runing that simplistic crap....they could do it b/c they had a freak at QB. You give a good coaching staff a talent like Cam......and things most likely will work out fine. IMO, if you don't want Cam......then the real question mark is the coaching staff.

[Sword]

drawing circles on a board can be taught, and usually it's the coaches that are the ones doing the drawing. i personally believe he's willing to learn, I think he has the capability of learning, and we have the coaching staff that is able to teach.

[TheRealDeal]

Yes but he's so far behindddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

[CRA]

Yes but he's so far behindddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

you don't know that.....people claimed the same thing about The Golden Calf of Bristol. The Golden Calf of Bristol looked light years ahead of Clausen. The Golden Calf of Bristol looked every bit as good as Bradford when he played last year.

[psyburn21]

So, Clausen should go coach high school football or something.

Auburn didn't run a complex system.....so what. They didn't need one. Why get complex when you don't need to. They went undefeated and won a NC runing that simplistic crap....they could do it b/c they had a freak at QB. You give a good coaching staff a talent like Cam......and things most likely will work out fine. IMO, if you don't want Cam......then the real question mark is the coaching staff.

I agree with what your saying about Auburn's offense. Yes is was simple, but its not the job of the college coaching staff to prepare every player for the NFL. They have to win games with what system they think is best. I can not fault Cam Newton for that at all and I personally though he did a good enough job drawing up that play on Gruden's show. Learning the verbal and complexity of an NFL offense is I feel that he can do in time.

I have to disagree with you though about a coaching staff would he crazy to not want him. If he does not fit what Carolina wants to do on offense, then he should not be drafted.

[Sword]

Yes but he's so far behindddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

I would rather the panthers teach someone that knows very little and is willing to learn, than one that thinks he knows everything and really doesn't.

[TheRealDeal]

you don't know that.....people claimed the same thing about The Golden Calf of Bristol. The Golden Calf of Bristol looked light years ahead of Clausen. The Golden Calf of Bristol looked every bit as good as Bradford when he played last year.

We're talking about X's and O's and yes we all know how far behind he is

[teeray]

So, Clausen should go coach high school football or something.

Auburn didn't run a complex system.....so what. They didn't need one. Why get complex when you don't need to. They went undefeated and won a NC runing that simplistic crap....they could do it b/c they had a freak at QB. You give a good coaching staff a talent like Cam......and things most likely will work out fine. IMO, if you don't want Cam......then the real question mark is the coaching staff.

At the risk of catching some people's wrath here the system isn't that simple. The play calling was. Instead of the verbiage that Gruden used it was a simple play call. Almost like calling a play in basketball.

But in a lot of ways Newton will be learning a new language which will be challenging but he will get it.

And also to be fair about Gruden, the only QB that could ever learn Gruden's verbiage was Gannon.

I remember a story where Brad Johnson, who by that time was a seasoned vet in the NFL, couldn't figure out what the hell Gruden was saying when they were in Tampa Bay :lol:

[TheRealDeal]

I would rather the panthers teach someone that knows very little and is willing to learn, than one that thinks he knows everything and really doesn't.

Who would that be?

[AubiePanther]

There is a big misconception out there that the Auburn offense is incredibly simple. The offensive plays and the reads you must make as a qb in the offense are no simpler than any other college offense. What is simple is the language used to call the plays. Being a HUNH offense does not afford the qb the time to call a complex sounding play. That does not mean that the play that is called is not complex in its execution.

[Sword]

Who would that be?

Clausen refused to listen to the coaches at the end of the year(per a gantt chat).

[CRA]

I agree with want your saying about Auburn's offense. Yes is was simple, but its not the job of the college coaching staff to prepare every player for the NFL. They have to win games with what system they think is best. I can not fault Cam Newton for that at all and I personally though he did a good enough job drawing up that play on Gruden's show. Learning the verbal and complexity of an NFL offense is I feel that he can do in time.

I have to disagree with you though about a coaching staff would he crazy to not want him. If he does fit what Carolina wants to do on offense, then he should not be drafted.

I agree with that.....that is why I think drafting Clausen and Pike was dumb. You draft 2 QBs when you know that you are about to bring in a brand new coaching staff.....and have no clue what would fit there offense.

If Cam doesn't have the skill set that would fit the offense then I agree, you don't draft him.

[psyburn21]

Yes but he's so far behindddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddddd

So. Are you gonna assume that he can't pick up an NFL offense because you have presented no evidence to back that up.

Clausen at least knows play design theory and could talk about it like he isn't semi retarded

That's not a good way to prove your point.