Taking a QB may put us in the cellar

[Mr. Scot]

why didn't you say I was taking it too seriously then? why did you just say something different that wasn't ridicule

Can't honestly say I remember the context. Good chance what I said was meant to be smartass (happens a lot).

On the serious level though, I wouldn't change my favorite team unless they gave me a real world reason to do so. Not drafting the guy I like doesn't quality.

Doing that enough times might make me think somebody in the personnel department should find work elsewhere, but it won't make me stop being a fan.

[Mr. Scot]

Personally, there isn't a QB in this draft I would take in the first 10 picks. I think the Panthers are going to be picking 1st next year due to lack of overall talent. I would go ahead and draft DL or BPA on the draft board if I couldn't trade the pick. Living in NC, I was hoping like hell that Luck came out, but even then, I wouldn't have started a guy like that with the lack of talent that's currently on the team.

In reference to Newton, he is a kind of project that you draft and develop over a couple of years. He would be better off going to a team like the Patriots (or another solid team with a vet QB) where he could learn the game from the sideline first. The team who picks him in the top of the draft is going to need him to play right away, and chances are the coach isn't going to be around much longer because he's going to rush Newton before he's ready. NFL coaches generally don't have that luxury to sit 1st round draft picks (especially QBs) while they learn.

Well, in that case, my apologies for misinterpreting you (thought you were trolling).

[JawnyBlaze]

A little misleading (though not intentionally so). Here's why.

Yes, that's the round they were drafted in, but it's not how they were acquired by their current team.

To be completely accurate with where you're going, I think you have to factor in free agency and trades.

I don't think how they were acquired by their current team is terribly relevant. The point is projected NFL talent (as measured by what round they were drafted in, doesn't matter by what team) vs actual NFL starters. The point is that not many QBs who teams thought were ok and might have a chance (as evidenced by being drafted in the 2nd round) have succeeded as QBs who teams didn't think were worth a draft pick but picked up on the off chance they could turn into something. The point is that if you want a starting caliber QB in the NFL, you pretty much have to take one projected in the 1st round. Anything else is even riskier than taking an unproven guy with the #1 overall.

[Mr. Scot]

I don't think how they were acquired by their current team is terribly relevant. The point is projected NFL talent (as measured by what round they were drafted in, doesn't matter by what team) vs actual NFL starters. The point is that not many QBs who teams thought were ok and might have a chance (as evidenced by being drafted in the 2nd round) have succeeded as QBs who teams didn't think were worth a draft pick but picked up on the off chance they could turn into something. The point is that if you want a starting caliber QB in the NFL, you pretty much have to take one projected in the 1st round. Anything else is even riskier than taking an unproven guy with the #1 overall.

To the point being made, it actually did.

I think it's pretty loose to take a guy picked up as a free agent, and thus no longer playing for the team that drafted him, and use him as a plank of an argument in favor of using a draft pick on a quarterback. It's essentially arguing "we should draft a guy like Jay Cutler because look how much he's paying off for the Broncos right now" :sosp:

In many cases, those guys aren't with their original team for a reason.