Taking a QB may put us in the cellar

[brianm23]

Look on the bright side, if you draft Newton, you most definitely will finish with the worst record in the NFL. Then you can select another QB (Luck) with your first pick next year! Eventually you'll get it right...lol

[frash.exe]

You act like it's 2004. Not 2011.

no dude people want to win, just as long as it doesn't involve taking any high-profile risks whatsoever. conservative panther fans just can't handle that kind of vicarious pressure, it's just too much

[Mr. Scot]

Look on the bright side, if you draft Newton, you most definitely will finish with the worst record in the NFL. Then you can select another QB (Luck) with your first pick next year! Eventually you'll get it right...lol

Congrats on being so simple minded as to be easily predictable.

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/smack-central/59883-saving-the-trolls-the-trouble.html

[Mr. Scot]

no dude people want to win, just as long as it doesn't involve taking any high-profile risks whatsoever. conservative panther fans just can't handle that kind of vicarious pressure, it's just too much

Who the heck feels "vicarious pressure"? The whole notion is silly.

And here I thought that whole line of thinking was already dumb enough. You just managed to make it even dumber :nonod:

Anybody who feels real world pressure over who their favorite football team drafts is taking this stuff way too seriously. And I seriously doubt anyone here is letting it affect them that much.

[Jerry]

Give Claussen another fair shot at it. He has played and will be better

next year. He didn't have a chance with the team around him and our poor defensive

front. Go out and get Dareus this year and if need be then get your QB in 2012. They will

be better QB's coming out next year.

[frash.exe]

Who the heck feels "vicarious pressure"? The whole notion is silly.

And here I thought that whole line of thinking was already dumb enough. You just managed to make it even dumber :nonod:

Anybody who feels real world pressure over who their favorite football team drafts is taking this stuff way too seriously. And I seriously doubt anyone here is letting it affect them that much.

just because you say it is doesn't make it so. there is a such thing as people taking the game too seriously

[Mr. Scot]

just because you say it is doesn't make it so. there is a such thing as people taking the game too seriously

You saying it doesn't make it so either.

Are there people who take the game too seriously? Yep.

Are all of those people in the anti-Newton camp? Extremely doubtful.

I'd say those people who are ready to say "I'll leave this team if they don't draft who I want" on either side are taking it too serious.

Likewise, the folks trying to attribute motives like racism, fear and hate to those who disagree with them are taking it waaaaaayyy too serious (to the point of sheer stupidity).

[frash.exe]

I'd say those people who are ready to say "I'll leave this team if they don't draft who I want" on either side are taking it too serious. Likewise, the folks trying to attribute motives like racism, fear and hate to those who disagree with them are taking it waaaaaayyy too serious (to the point of sheer stupidity).

yea and when I once said that and you agreed with it were you thinking the opposite?

[brianm23]

Congrats on being so simple minded as to be easily predictable.

http://www.carolinahuddle.com/forum/smack-central/59883-saving-the-trolls-the-trouble.html

I've already gone on record on this board saying I'll buy everybody on this board a drink if Newton ends up being a legit/successful QB in the NFL.

Nothing simple minded about it. The stats, red flags, and past history of these kinds of players have been proven time and time again.

[Mr. Scot]

yea and when I once said that and you agreed with it were you thinking the opposite?

I've never had any plan to leave the team if I didn't like who they drafted. If I thought that way it would have happened a long time ago because they've made loads of picks I didn't like (including Clausen).

I once said that I'd have to seriously question the intellect of the people running this team if they passed on Andrew Luck, and that I would have, but wouldn't have stopped being a fan.

It does become much harder to watch when the team is bad because it isn't fun anymore, but I still keep watching.

About the only thing that would seriously make me question my fanhood to this team would be if they suddenly started going the Bengals route (i.e. being okay with thugs). And it'd have to be major stuff like domestic abuse, rape, shootings and things on that level.

[Mr. Scot]

I've already gone on record on this board saying I'll buy everybody on this board a drink if Newton ends up being a legit/successful QB in the NFL.

Nothing simple minded about it. The stats, red flags, and past history of these kinds of players have been proven time and time again.

So is this prediction only related to drafting Newton or is it that the Panthers will suck next year regardless of who they draft?

[frash.exe]

I've already gone on record on this board saying I'll buy everybody on this board a drink if Newton ends up being a legit/successful QB in the NFL.

if he does i'll have my drink will be a shot of Remy Martin Cognac Louis XIII

[frash.exe]

why didn't you say I was taking it too seriously then? why did you just say something different that wasn't ridicule

[brianm23]

So is this prediction only related to drafting Newton or is it that the Panthers will suck next year regardless of who they draft?

Personally, there isn't a QB in this draft I would take in the first 10 picks. I think the Panthers are going to be picking 1st next year due to lack of overall talent. I would go ahead and draft DL or BPA on the draft board if I couldn't trade the pick. Living in NC, I was hoping like hell that Luck came out, but even then, I wouldn't have started a guy like that with the lack of talent that's currently on the team.

In reference to Newton, he is a kind of project that you draft and develop over a couple of years. He would be better off going to a team like the Patriots (or another solid team with a vet QB) where he could learn the game from the sideline first. The team who picks him in the top of the draft is going to need him to play right away, and chances are the coach isn't going to be around much longer because he's going to rush Newton before he's ready. NFL coaches generally don't have that luxury to sit 1st round draft picks (especially QBs) while they learn.