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The Cam Newton Effect

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Trust me you're preaching to the choir. I don't want Newton....that's not to say that I'm hoping we lose every game so we can get Luck' date=' I just don't think Newton is the long term answer....[/quote']

Agreed. I don't want to lose every game ether. I have just come to the conclusion that if we have the hardest schedule in the NFL with no QB (and none in the draft that can make an immediate impact) then we are better off with a vet or someone currently on the roster to be the temporary place holder until the position is addressed down the road.

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Andrew Luck > Cam Newton

When you buy a new toy, do you want to buy the cheap toy to satisfy you for a short period of time? or do you save your money and get the big toy that will last for a very long time and has better features?

If I'm the kid buying that new toy, I'm picking the one with all the features. Thank you.

You haven f*cking noticed Andrew luck isn't in this F*CKING draft!

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even with the extreme schedule there is no promise luck will enter the draft or that we will still have the number 1 pick. if we don't have the number one pick no team is going to trade us luck no matter what. Who says its going to take cam newton that long to develop? for that matter who's to say who ever we draft next season won't take as long or longer to become a good player?

This bluechip player you speak of who dareus? is he going to really worth passing on a promising qb(gabbert or newton) for the illusion of a dream of getting luck? How do we know he won't be a bust? The chances of us landing the number one pick will increase due to the tuff schedule,but not promised.

Once again, Luck was only an example. There are 3 top 10 QB's coming out next season, all better than Newton and Gabbert.

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Andrew Luck > Cam Newton

When you buy a new toy, do you want to buy the cheap toy to satisfy you for a short period of time? or do you save your money and get the big toy that will last for a very long time and has better features?

If I'm the kid buying that new toy, I'm picking the one with all the features. Thank you.

I like Newton's analogy better.

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Earlier last week I was warming up to the thought of Cam Newton. He could be something special. Yes we know he has great potential, but he also has the potential to bust. As far as I'm concerned, I can't really tell which one it will be.

After watching the QB Camp with Gruden, I have drawn the conclusion that Cam Newton does not have the mental capacity to comprehend NFL "verbage" as Gruden called it. Newton struggeld with some of the most basic questions, and used an analogy which probably wasn't the best one to pick from (but I could care less about that). Newton is so far behind in preparation for his game transfering to the Pro's that it will take at least 3 years to develop him. With no sign of OTA's or even training camp, he will even be worse off this upcoming season.

Now my thought process has come to this. We, as the worst team in the NFL (according to record) now have the hardest schedule next season. How this has happened is beyond me. But unless Rivera puts something into the gatorade, I'm convinced we will be sitting at #1 again next season (if not top 3). We will have a variety of potential franchise QB's to select from, even the elusive Andrew Luck. A QB of Luck's caliber would instantly make an impact in the NFL (however not a big splash his rookie season, but still a big difference). While in 2012 Luck/other QB could be doing great things in the rookie world, Cam Newton will still be coming along, developing and learning the pro game.

I honestly believe Luck's rookie season (or another franchise QB next season) will make a larger impact than Newton in his 2nd year as a NFL QB. By the way, I am only using Luck as an example, because next season's QB's are far better than this ones.

So what do we do? Draft Dareus/Peterson (or Green if SS is gone), true blue chip players that will make a large impact for the next 6-10 years, get a vet like Palmer or someone else, let Clausen sit for at least half the season, try with him again (not a Clausen supporter, but I do believe he didn't get a fair shot). At least let him gain some trade value, then pick up our franchise QB next season.

So what do we come away with?

- Blue Chip Player in 2011

- Peyton Manning 2.0 in 2012

vs.

- Cam Newton being a rookie in 2011

- Cam Newton still developing in 2012

- Cam Newton ready to be judged if he can translate to the NFL in 2013

Just to sum this up, you don't need to reach for a QB this season, when there will be ones with a lot more potential next season, and by the looks of where everything is at right now, we will be sitting back in the top 3 next season.

That is all.

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Once again, Luck was only an example. There are 3 top 10 QB's coming out next season, all better than Newton and Gabbert.

says who? how do we know that they are all better than newton and gabbert? Where is this consenus coming from that all three are head over heals better than newton and gabbert? im assuming you mean luck(he probably is) matt barkley(????) and the kid from oak.(???) what have the last 2 shown you that they are better than newton and gabbert?

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Not knowing the NFL play calling verbage, coming from a no huddle system at Auburn will have ZERO impact on his ability to learn the proper system going forward. If this is so important to performance then Clausen, Quinn, Leinhart, etc who came out of pro system in college would be stars... How's that working out

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Not knowing the NFL play calling verbage, coming from a no huddle system at Auburn will have ZERO impact on his ability to learn the proper system going forward. If this is so important to performance then Clausen, Quinn, Leinhart, etc who came out of pro system in college would be stars... How's that working out

It's all about the individual. How did it work out for Palmer (prior to his injury), Brady, Manning (both of them) and Rivers....

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Drafting a QB this season is like playing black jack, trying to reach 21 while you already have 20 in your hand.

That is all.

This quote is always so funny to me. I play lot blackjack in Las Vegas, how could anyone looking at the QB situation in Carolina even think, there is 20 in the hand. Good God. Closer to a 16 then 20.

The future is now, right now. Life is gamble. Pro football is game. The Panthers need to go for it. If he fails, he fails. Life will go on. Flip side, he could be great. He might not be as eloquent as some, but neither was Bradshaw and Bradshaw had 3 rings...ole Ben has a few too. You ain't got to be a PhD to play this game.

The love affair with Luck is just astounding. My personal wish is that they do draft Newton and when Panthers play the team that drafts Luck, I hope they beat the hell out of Luck

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