Gruden vs King

[TylerVagyler]

Why do you care so much what I think of Jon Gruden?

Banks is in the exact same situation as Gruden (predicting the Panthers will take Newton #1) so if my goal is to assassinate the credibility of such predictors, what I think of Don banks matters too.

So tell me, what do I think of him? Surely you know, right, since you know what I think of Gruden's program?

Do you actually read what I type?

I have told you multiple times that this isn't about your opinion of Gruden. I have told you multiple times that I don't care about what you think of Gruden.

Continue trolling though.

[TheRealDeal]

New guy says troll :lol:

[Mr. Scot]

Do you actually read what I type?

I have told you multiple times that this isn't about your opinion of Gruden. I have told you multiple times that I don't care about what you think of Gruden.

Continue trolling though.

Do you read what you type?

GOOD ONE!!

But come on man, you know my original comment is true. This thread was started literally hours after a separate thread which had a report of Gruden suggesting that we take Cam.

Why did I have to mention Cam? Why not? He is the player who appears to be on the top of our board. He was featured on Gruden's Camp. As said above, there was a thread early today regarding Gruden's opinion on Cam.

The people who are against drafting Cam will run with this as proof that Gruden isn't credible and there is still no good reason to pick Cam.

The people for drafting Cam will say this article is dumb and we should listen to Gruden anyways.

Just don't act like you didn't know what you were doing when you started this thread.

And then there's this...

If this has no connection to Cam, then why post it? Why do we care if Gruden is credible or not? Oh yeah, because he hosts a QBC that features the player on the top of our draft board. The player that Gruden thinks we should take.

You said early on that I was "playing the dumb card' by saying that this wasn't about Newton.

Reality is that it wasn't, until you guys tried to make it that way.

You want to say now that's not what you meant. Fine. I'll happily accept an apology and an "I was wrong" if offered.

[chef17]

Serious question to everyone who doesn't care about Scot's opinion. Why post in a thread he started instead of ignoring it?

[TylerVagyler]

Do you read what you type?

And then there's this...

You said early on that I was "playing the dumb card' by saying that this wasn't about Newton.

Reality is that it wasn't, until you guys tried to make it that way.

You want to say now that's not what you meant. Fine. I'll happily accept an apology and an "I was wrong" if offered.

You fail to mention my next post....

I think you misunderstood what I was saying and that's my fault, I wasn't very clear. I didn't mean that you were trying to discredit Gruden.

What I meant was, with this coming out just hours after the other report of Gruden's opinion, you should have known that this topic would come up. To be surprised that Newton would be apart of the conversion is ridiculous to me.

Guy A comes out and says we should take him. The same day Guy B says Guy A isn't credible. It's pretty simple how the two stories are relevant.

[Mr. Scot]

You fail to mention my next post....

Which was followed by this one...

If this has no connection to Cam, then why post it? Why do we care if Gruden is credible or not? Oh yeah, because he hosts a QBC that features the player on the top of our draft board. The player that Gruden thinks we should take.

Had you stopped with the prior one, you might have been okay, but continuing on with the whole "you only posted this to say something negative about Newton" bit was what made you look silly.

And again, you guys keep going on this track without even knowing what my opinion on the program is, which pushes you beyond looking silly into looking ridiculous ;lol:

You had a moment (one post) where you actually discussed the substance of the topic, and I gave you credit. But next post, you were right back to claiming it was all about Newton again.

Shouldda quit while you were ahead :nonod:

Face it dude. You were wrong. Man up, admit it, apologize and move on and you'll get all the credit in the world from me. But keep defending the prior stuff and you're just making yourself look worse.

[TylerVagyler]

Which was followed by this one...

Had you stopped with the prior one, you might have been okay, but continuing on with the whole "you only posted this to say something negative about Newton" bit was what made you look silly.

And again, you guys keep going on this track without even knowing what my opinion on the program is, which pushes you beyond looking silly into looking ridiculous ;lol:

You had a moment (one post) where you actually discussed the substance of the topic, and I gave you credit. But next post, you were right back to claiming it was all about Newton again.

Shouldda quit while you were ahead :nonod:

I just don't understand why you would post it in a Panthers forum if it has nothing to do with the Panthers.

[Mr. Scot]

I just don't understand why you would post it in a Panthers forum if it has nothing to do with the Panthers.

What's this got to do with the Panthers?

Bucs staffer arrested for DUI

That one's posted in the Panthers forum too.

It's the offseason. Posts on general NFL topics are allowed in the Panthers forum. The NFL forum doesn't get visited all that much. That's why the CBA news is posted here too.

It's that simple.

[teeray]

Which was followed by this one...

Had you stopped with the prior one, you might have been okay, but continuing on with the whole "you only posted this to say something negative about Newton" bit was what made you look silly.

And again, you guys keep going on this track without even knowing what my opinion on the program is, which pushes you beyond looking silly into looking ridiculous ;lol:

You had a moment (one post) where you actually discussed the substance of the topic, and I gave you credit. But next post, you were right back to claiming it was all about Newton again.

Shouldda quit while you were ahead :nonod:

Why do you constantly think people care what you say?? You reference poker a great deal. If I ask you what hand you are holding are you going to tell me or give me a self serving response??

I judge you on your actions. I personally don't think you made this thread with the purpose of undermining Gruden. It was part of the news cycle yesterday (or whenever you posted this, seems like yesterday) so it makes sense that it came out at the same time.

But when you bring yourself down to the level of calling people "sport" when you are factually inaccurate and use a list of things you don't agree with but can't produce more than 1 thread you have created to show your objectivity. You fail.

And it is because of that and the fact that you have started self serving threads in the past (Narwocki) makes it hard for some to give you the benefit of the doubt.

But if it makes you feel better I don't think that was the case on this particular thread.

[teeray]

What's this got to do with the Panthers?

Bucs staffer arrested for DUI

That one's posted in the Panthers forum too.

It's the offseason. Posts on general NFL topics are allowed in the Panthers forum. The NFL forum doesn't get visited all that much. That's why the CBA news is posted here too.

It's that simple.

So you couldn't figure out where to post in two threads. You got em!! :lol:

j/k

[Mr. Scot]

Why do you constantly think people care what you say?? You reference poker a great deal. If I ask you what hand you are holding are you going to tell me or give me a self serving response??

I judge you on your actions. I personally don't think you made this thread with the purpose of undermining Gruden. It was part of the news cycle yesterday (or whenever you posted this, seems like yesterday) so it makes sense that it came out at the same time.

But when you bring yourself down to the level of calling people "sport" when you are factually inaccurate and use a list of things you don't agree with but can't produce more than 1 thread you have created to show your objectivity. You fail.

And it is because of that and the fact that you have started self serving threads in the past (Narwocki) makes it hard for some to give you the benefit of the doubt.

But if it makes you feel better I don't think that was the case on this particular thread.

I'll let Chef answer you...

Serious question to everyone who doesn't care about Scot's opinion. Why post in a thread he started instead of ignoring it?

And like I said before, I can't rightly take credit for people being made to look stupid in this thread. They did it to themselves.

And trust me, with the stuff you've posted in here, you're in no position to question my objectivity :nonod:

[TheRealDeal]

And it is because of that and the fact that you have started self serving threads in the past (Narwocki) makes it hard for some to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Well that and the fact that you guys are so new and have practically ruined this board.

Anyone who doesn't believe every idiotic word you guys type is a hater or a troll. This place used to be great. YOU are part of the reason it's falling off.

[TylerVagyler]

Posting in a thread you started automatically means I want to hear your opinion?

Just need some clarification, since you know I'm the "new guy" and I don't seem to understand the rules that you've created.

[blackcatgrowl]

Mr. Scot,

Find me one thread you started about Newton that was "Positive" or had a "positive review" linked in it. Until then, I'm going to continue to say we're just calling it like we see it.