Gruden: Panthers Will Select Newton

[Millions]

Sorry MH, had to butt in on this one and answer your question w/another question:

How many Cam "haters" would there be if he were? How many would be questioning his attitude, intelligence, etc? How polarizing would he be among the fans if he were of another persuasion? Put it this way, odds are the bandwagon would have a waiting list if he were (white) and few would question whether the Panthers should take him @ #1. JMHO

So true people will bring up The Golden Calf of Bristol but imo The Golden Calf of Bristol would have been a top 10 pick if he didn't have to fix his throwing motion.

[Lout]

TBH Newton might not even be in the mix... My understanding is that JR doesn't want him...

If we don't pick Newton, he could slide to the middle of the first or further... That should tell you a lot...

I think that is fair and accurate for the most part, however, I don't think he will fall that far. JR has said "We are looking for someone to be the face of our franchise with our #1 selection".. and I do not think JR wants a guy like Cam to be the face of the franchise. IMO, Cam has too much baggage for JR. If Hurney is smart at all, he will want JR's blessing with the first choice.. and I have heard that from around the league.

[Millions]

Setting ourselves up for major disappointment?

Try already being majorly dissapointed.

The only way it could get worse, is if we go 1-15, or 0-16 next year.

Newton is an outlet of hope. Nothing more. If we don't draft him, that hope will be dashed... but the glaring problem we have at QB won't be changed.

And even if we do draft him, I won't be over my current level of disappointment until we are on the positive side of the W-L column (provided we even get to see football this year).

Quoted for truth especially the statements in bold.

[Mr. Scot]

So true people will bring up The Golden Calf of Bristol but imo The Golden Calf of Bristol would have been a top 10 pick if he didn't have to fix his throwing motion.

That's a pretty meaningless statement.

"He would have been a top pick if he didn't have this issue" pretty much applies to every prospect out there.

Respect his opinion or not at least he backed up his statements with true facts we have talent on offense. Unlike that least talented sh1t we heard yesterday on NFL Live.

What "facts" specific to Newton did he back this up with (or do you judge opinions to be "facts" by whether you agree with them)?

[Darth Urious]

I could have been the #1 pick if I actually went out and worked hard to become a football player and not sat around posting on the Huddle all day...

[TarPanther9180]

If I could go back in time, I'd take state. -Uncle Rico

[TarPanther9180]

"If I'd used condoms, I wouldn't have Eleventy kids" - PanthaSan

[King Taharqa]

I am not saying that Cam will or won't be the pick.

But, it will be funny as hell watching the handful of Cam hugger posters completely go off the deep end if we pass on him.

Watching you make foolish predictions ("jerry would never draft a thug like Newton!") and place your pride and ego on whether we draft Cam has been far more entertaining this offseason. The fear, the paranoia, the need to be plain and boring at all times makes me chuckle. This is a great time in Panther history, its unfortunate you are so strongly and firmly opposed to it. Its also sad you need the Panthers to hold your hand and tell you who to like and believe in. Dont hate or resent those of us who dont. Its funny the ones who were wrong and spent 3 months trashing this guy now want to potray themselves as logical and the voices of reason. Pffft, please.

[Millions]

That's a pretty meaningless statement.

"He would have been a top pick if he didn't have this issue" pretty much applies to every prospect out there.

Not really we are talking about Cam vs The Golden Calf of Bristol an the critics/discussion about where they're being talked about going in the draft. Cam doesn't have to tweak his throwing motion coming out his arm is superior to The Golden Calf of Bristol's. Which is why he's a high favorite to go first overall compared to The Golden Calf of Bristol last year. My statement is my opinion why The Golden Calf of Bristol fell in the draft instead of being talked about how Cam is this year by the "believers".

[Mr. Scot]

Not really we are talking about Cam vs The Golden Calf of Bristol an the critics/discussion about where they're being talked about going in the draft. Cam doesn't have to tweak his throwing motion coming out his arm is superior to The Golden Calf of Bristol's. Which is why he's a high favorite to go first overall compared to The Golden Calf of Bristol last year. My statement is my opinion why The Golden Calf of Bristol fell in the draft instead of being talked about how Cam is this year by the "believers".

I could just as easily throw back the question of what if The Golden Calf of Bristol had been caught cheating or found in possession of a stolen laptop?

(see how this works?)

[Verge]

Watching you make foolish predictions ("jerry would never draft a thug like Newton!") and place your pride and ego on whether we draft Cam has been far more entertaining this offseason. The fear, the paranoia, the need to be plain and boring at all times makes me chuckle. This is a great time in Panther history, its unfortunate you are so strongly and firmly opposed to it. Its also sad you need the Panthers to hold your hand and tell you who to like and believe in. Dont hate or resent those of us who dont. Its funny the ones who were wrong and spent 3 months trashing this guy now want to potray themselves as logical and the voices of reason. Pffft, please.

Hypocrite

[Highlandfire]

http://blogs.charlotte.com/panthers/2011/04/gruden-panthers-will-select-newton.html

http://twitter.com/josephperson

take it as you will.

So Gruden thinks we should take the guy that was hands down the worst in the film session and looked totally lost talking about plays?

And we have further proof now as to why Gruden never gets a coaching offer anymore...

[prowler2k8]

Look back at the The Golden Calf of Bristol discussion last year and you'll have a ready made answer.

True, there were questions about how successful The Golden Calf of Bristol would be as an NFL QB (if ever) b/c of the style of offense he ran in college and his mechanics. However, I don't remember anyone questioning his attitude, intelligence, leadership, etc. True, Newton does have a past, and these issues have been discussed ad nauseum. But there are many Cam "hater" questioning his leadership, attitude, and intelligence despite evidence to the contrary (reports from former coaches, etc). It makes me wonder how much of these would even be up for discussion if Cam Newton were white. JMHO

[Mr. Scot]

Its funny the ones who were wrong and spent 3 months trashing this guy now want to potray themselves as logical and the voices of reason. Pffft, please.

Not near as funny as it is watching a guy who's been baselessly screaming that Jerry Richardson is racist suddenly change his tune.

Will be even funnier watching you go back to screaming it again if he doesn't pick Newton, unless you're willing to pledge right now that you don't believe it anymore and you won't say that even if Newton is picked.

I know good and well you won't keep your word if you give it, but I'll be amused to see if you're willing to go on record.

My guess is you'll continue with the sheer stupidity of judging whether Richardson is racist or not by whether or not he picks the guy you like :lol: