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[rodeo]

1 minute ago, CRA said:

I just don't get how they can stretch things out like that...they will really have to slow down time IMO.

the Battle for Kings Landing IMO shouldn't be much of one.  Dany is way too stacked IMO vs Cercei

The last two seasons will only be 7 and 6 episodes respectively.

[CRA]

10 minutes ago, rodeo said:

I thought they really dropped the ball on the r+l=j reveal. Why the fug have her whisper it so people are like 'huh what did she say' instead of just declare it in a big omg moment.

Maybe the TV showed at this point...only was concerned about showing who his mother is (and if you never read the books or spoiler info....that was a pretty big one). 

Snow's father probably needs to be reintroduced for TV show world before all that drops.  

HBO has to tell a story that doesn't require being a book reader or hardcore super fan.  That is my guess why. 

[Davidson Deac II]

15 minutes ago, CRA said:

I just don't get how they can stretch things out like that...they will really have to slow down time IMO.

the Battle for Kings Landing IMO shouldn't be much of one.  Dany is way too stacked IMO vs Cercei

It seems that nothing in Game of Thrones comes easy.  I wouldn't be shocked to see Cersei deploy wildfire in the defense of king's landing.  And she might have Euron Greyjoy and maybe the Knights of the Vale on her side. 

[CRA]

14 minutes ago, rodeo said:

The last two seasons will only be 7 and 6 episodes respectively.

Well I guess that works better than I was thinking.   

7 episodes basically tell the Dany, Cersei and Jon battles and pairings.  

6 episodes for the set and war vs White Walkers and end game for the Throne 

[uncfan888]

6 minutes ago, CRA said:

Maybe the TV showed at this point...only was concerned about showing who his mother is (and if you never read the books or spoiler info....that was a pretty big one). 

Snow's father probably needs to be reintroduced for TV show world before all that drops.  

HBO has to tell a story that doesn't require being a book reader or hardcore super fan.  That is my guess why. 

I cranked the volume all the way up so I could hear what she was saying.  She said if Robert finds out, he'd kill Jon.

Since Robert was on a targaryen rampage, rhaegar has to be his dad

[CRA]

18 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

It seems that nothing in Game of Thrones comes easy.  I wouldn't be shocked to see Cersei deploy wildfire in the defense of king's landing.  And she might have Euron Greyjoy and maybe the Knights of the Vale on her side. 

Littlefinger by all accounts should be too smart to take Cersei's side vs Dany and company in a battle.  

But maybe he becomes desperate as their are basically only 3 sides for him to try to get in on the game now 

have to wonder big picture how true the TV show will be to GRRM'a initial  reasoning on GOT (that the good guys don't always win though).  This season was full of good guy redemption IMO.  

Part of me expects a LOST, Sopranos type fan rage at the end....I mean they can't give us a nice and clean ending IMO. 

[Bronn]

So where is Dany's fleet heading? Did the Tyrell fleet meet the Dornish fleet off the coast of Dorne, or did Dany and the Dornish pick them up on the way around the Western side of Westeros, en route to Casterly Rock? Do you think they'd head straight for King's Landing?

I'm guessing King's Landing. Right to the heart of the kingdom and don't risk depleting your army before you get to the jackpot.

That said, if the Battle on the Blackwater taught us anything, it is that maybe an assault on KL from the sea isn't such a good idea. But, she has dragons, a massive fleet, and I would assume that Cersei's stockpile of wildfire and overall support is dwindling.

 

[Jimmy]

Could Uron intercept Dany's fleet before reaching Westeros? If so, that could put a big dent in her seemingly easy takeover, especially if he sinks half her fleet. 

[Zaximus]

34 minutes ago, Bronn said:

So where is Dany's fleet heading? Did the Tyrell fleet meet the Dornish fleet off the coast of Dorne, or did Dany and the Dornish pick them up on the way around the Western side of Westeros, en route to Casterly Rock? Do you think they'd head straight for King's Landing?

I'm guessing King's Landing. Right to the heart of the kingdom and don't risk depleting your army before you get to the jackpot.

That said, if the Battle on the Blackwater taught us anything, it is that maybe an assault on KL from the sea isn't such a good idea. But, she has dragons, a massive fleet, and I would assume that Cersei's stockpile of wildfire and overall support is dwindling.

 

I really think they should attack from the West or South, either from Tyrell or Martell's lands.   It makes sense.  The Dothraki probably don't even have their "sea legs" yet so could use for a little bit of rest on land, get some fresh food for them and their horses (from Tyrell/Martells) before heading to King's Landing (OR meeting the Lannister army wherever it is).   If Cersei gets no help, they could almost attack Kings Landing and Casterly Rock at the same time since they'd have the numbers.  The Lannister army/Jamie will be faced with a tough decision.   if they stay in King's Landing you pretty much give up Casterly Rock, and that's probably the last place you're getting supplies from (unless Littlefinger joins her, etc).   Dany and her army, with support from the Tyrells and Martells can easily win a battle of attrition against King's Landing, not even via land but also via sea.  I wouldn't attack from the sea, I'd just use it as a blockage function while hitting them on the ground. 

I feel Euron goes to Cersei for an alliance and maybe marriage to get that done, I really see no other way for Euron, it's the only small chance he has to stay in power up there.  At that point, Littlefinger may join over, but I'm really not sure. 

 

Just thought that maybe this is when Jamie kills Cersei.   Kings Landing is surrounded and basically a goner.  She realizes this and decides to just burn down the whole thing.   Jamie becomes not only the Kingslayer, but a Queen Slayer and a Sister-Slayer, to save that town.   Maybe they allow him to go back to his home and rule there, which Jamie may be OK with.   Maybe his army helps against the white walkers, who knows.

[Davidson Deac II]

34 minutes ago, Bronn said:

So where is Dany's fleet heading? Did the Tyrell fleet meet the Dornish fleet off the coast of Dorne, or did Dany and the Dornish pick them up on the way around the Western side of Westeros, en route to Casterly Rock? Do you think they'd head straight for King's Landing?

I'm guessing King's Landing. Right to the heart of the kingdom and don't risk depleting your army before you get to the jackpot.

That said, if the Battle on the Blackwater taught us anything, it is that maybe an assault on KL from the sea isn't such a good idea. But, she has dragons, a massive fleet, and I would assume that Cersei's stockpile of wildfire and overall support is dwindling.

 

I would think they would want to land somewhere where they could do it unopposed, gather their forces, and then march on Kings Landing.  And they have ships full of Dothraki.  Might want to give them a couple of days ashore before going to war.  Its not an easy thing to go from seasick to combat.

[Davidson Deac II]

55 minutes ago, CRA said:

Littlefinger by all accounts should be too smart to take Cersei's side vs Dany and company in a battle.  

But maybe he becomes desperate as their are basically only 3 sides for him to try to get in on the game now 

have to wonder big picture how true the TV show will be to GRRM'a initial  reasoning on GOT (that the good guys don't always win though).  This season was full of good guy redemption IMO.  

Part of me expects a LOST, Sopranos type fan rage at the end....I mean they can't give us a nice and clean ending IMO. 

That was my thought as well, regarding LF.  And fwiw, I don't see Cersei particularly wanting to ally with LF given that he helped the Starks, but she may feel she doesn't have a choice.  Wouldn't be surprised to see him killed by Cersei once the Army of the Vale is fully engaged. 

I agree about good guys not necessarily winning.  Or we might see the good guys win, but then they become the bad guys. 

[rodeo]

1 hour ago, Bronn said:

So where is Dany's fleet heading? Did the Tyrell fleet meet the Dornish fleet off the coast of Dorne, or did Dany and the Dornish pick them up on the way around the Western side of Westeros, en route to Casterly Rock? Do you think they'd head straight for King's Landing?
 

 

Yeah it seemed they bent some poo for the sake of the awesome fleet shot. It looked like the Reach fleet sailed all the way around Westeros to Meereen in order to sail back to Westeros with Dany.

[The Link]

I agree with the idea of Jaime killing Cersei. She's basically The Mad Queen.

[CRA]

1 hour ago, Bronn said:

So where is Dany's fleet heading? Did the Tyrell fleet meet the Dornish fleet off the coast of Dorne, or did Dany and the Dornish pick them up on the way around the Western side of Westeros, en route to Casterly Rock? Do you think they'd head straight for King's Landing?

I'm guessing King's Landing. Right to the heart of the kingdom and don't risk depleting your army before you get to the jackpot.

That said, if the Battle on the Blackwater taught us anything, it is that maybe an assault on KL from the sea isn't such a good idea. But, she has dragons, a massive fleet, and I would assume that Cersei's stockpile of wildfire and overall support is dwindling.

 

true, didn't think about that.  I had been figuring the smart move was just to roll right into King's Landing....and boom.  No way could that battle be pushed back to the finale next season. 

But the Hand of the Queen has knowledge about attacking it by sea and  probably will advise even with the numbers they need to attack smart and by sea isn't the best means.  Plus, they probably won't go in their guns blazing.  I guess they could try to diplomatically attempt to flex their muscle first.  They know Kings Landing isn't there only battle as well so they can't just take mass casualties in a "Ramsay-eqse" style b/c they have numbers.