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[Zaximus]

That article was over a year old.  I don't think they'd make Coldhands Benjen in the show unless it'll happen in the book, but anything is possible but that would be pretty confusing.    I wouldn't think GRRM would let that confusion happen.  Things change from book to show but the identity of someone completely?  Not sure.

[Bronn]

On 5/25/2016 at 5:08 PM, davos said:

Now that Euron is on the show, I figured to share my GoT inspired track (I still do the singer-songwriter thing):

"Euron Greyjoy"

Studio Version: https://soundcloud.com/midwav/euron-greyjoy-kraken-original-free-download

Acoustic Version: https://soundcloud.com/midwav/euron-greyjoy-acoustic-version-working

 

 

meant to listen to this the other day... just did... good stuff man!

[davos]

31 minutes ago, Bronn said:

meant to listen to this the other day... just did... good stuff man!

Thanks man. 

[uncfan888]

Coldhands is benjen. That's at least until Martin decides to put out another book.  And who knows when that will actually happen

[d-dave]

9 hours ago, uncfan888 said:

Coldhands is benjen. That's at least until Martin decides to put out another book.  And who knows when that will actually happen

I am of the same opinion on most of the nitpicking between book and show fans.  If GRM doesn't like things, then he needs to pick up the pace.  If he's insisting that the books remain incomplete upon his death, then it's up to the show the finish the story.

As far as the fantasy tropes and deus ex machina, they were always there, waiting for their time.  The story (books and show) is about how people in power screw everyone else for their benefit, and the consequences of those actions hasn't always been pretty.  At the same time, we're seeing the role of "magic" and "prophecy" become more and more prevalent.  There's the whole red comet, the awakening of the dragons, the emergence of the Others, etc.  Lots of events have been pointing to the awakening of magic (resisting the star wars joke here).  I don't see a problem in mystical solutions to mystical problems that others here are having.  Having Benjen be Coldhands make story sense.  When Coldhands showed up in the books, it was VERY deus ex machina.  If he has a special relationship to Bran, now we have a more logical reason for him to show up.  Characters need clearly defined roles and objectives to really help tell a story.  If not, then they are pointless.

As far as now we're protecting the characters, he's written himself into this hole.  Readers (this is book only, not talking about the show) have seen characters survive this violent world, and we expect those folks to finish the story.  How much would it suck for Danny, Tyrion, Aarya, or whoever else to die?  Who picks up those pieces?  He could be much more cavalier with deaths (Ned, Red Wedding, Joffrey) because they over all didn't have an important role to play in the story.  Now the survivors have that strong sense of destiny, and we have an expectation for them to survive.

Like wouldn't it suck if in the first half of the next book, all the favorites and/or important characters are really dead and killed off?  Then he has to write the second half of that book introducing the new characters who have to keep the story afloat?  That would be terrible writing.

[Bronn]

How cool would it be if Arya just happens to make it to the Twins in time for the celebration party of the Freys retaking Riverrun (with the assistance of the Lannisters?)

I could see her killing the waif, taking her face (or someone else's face,) getting back to Westeros, and just hanging out for the right moment, locking herself in the room full of Freys...

[Zaximus]

1 hour ago, Bronn said:

How cool would it be if Arya just happens to make it to the Twins in time for the celebration party of the Freys retaking Riverrun (with the assistance of the Lannisters?)

I could see her killing the waif, taking her face (or someone else's face,) getting back to Westeros, and just hanging out for the right moment, locking herself in the room full of Freys...

Do you think she has the knowledge to get the face stuff to work?  That would be awesome though.  I fully expect Arya to start taking out people like Frey, Cersei, etc. and no one will know what is going on.   I doubt anyone would recognize her anyway, the book made an impression she's pretty forgettable.   Now that she's marked by the Faceless men, she probably will never be able to rest and be who she is.   I hope at least she gets to spend time with her family or at least let them know she's alive.   I also wonder if the show is ever going to bring in her ability to control her wolf.

[CRA]

Hearing a lot of talk that the current plot line hints at Coldhands not being the only long awaited character to show up. 

[Jimmy]

Read that GRRMs wife's favorite character is Arya and that she forbade him from having her killed. I hope this true...

[rodeo]

On 5/31/2016 at 2:34 PM, Zaximus said:

That article was over a year old.  I don't think they'd make Coldhands Benjen in the show unless it'll happen in the book, but anything is possible but that would be pretty confusing.    I wouldn't think GRRM would let that confusion happen.  Things change from book to show but the identity of someone completely?  Not sure.

You've watched this show before, right? This is the same show that erased Arianne and Quentyn Martell and replaced them with a flailing bastard taking over Dorne via regicide in front of his personal guards. And you think they wouldn't change who Coldhands is?

[Davidson Deac II]

On 6/1/2016 at 9:47 AM, Bronn said:

How cool would it be if Arya just happens to make it to the Twins in time for the celebration party of the Freys retaking Riverrun (with the assistance of the Lannisters?)

I could see her killing the waif, taking her face (or someone else's face,) getting back to Westeros, and just hanging out for the right moment, locking herself in the room full of Freys...

I don't think she would really need another face to fool the Frey's.  I doubt any of them would know her.  If Jamie is there, he might, but since he hasn't seen her in 6 years or whatever the timeline on the show is, and he probably didn't pay much attention to her when he did see her, he might not recognize her. 

[Zaximus]

6 minutes ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I don't think she would really need another face to fool the Frey's.  I doubt any of them would know her.  If Jamie is there, he might, but since he hasn't seen her in 6 years or whatever the timeline on the show is, and he probably didn't pay much attention to her when he did see her, he might not recognize her. 

Yeah books say she's pretty normal or boring for looks, unlike Sansa, so I think she can easily blend in.  

[cookinbrak]

10 hours ago, Davidson Deac II said:

I don't think she would really need another face to fool the Frey's.  I doubt any of them would know her.  If Jamie is there, he might, but since he hasn't seen her in 6 years or whatever the timeline on the show is, and he probably didn't pay much attention to her when he did see her, he might not recognize her. 

She did get by as a boy for a while....

[Woodie]

Every year about the middle of the season, people complain about a slow episode or two.  And while we love the fun and exciting episodes, as well as our favorite characters like Tyrion, we need these slower episodes to set up those fun episodes later.  Without them, everything would seem contrived and forced without any buildup or it making much sense.  So, I don't mind these episodes.  It gives us  lot of the depth of the story that many take for granted.   

As far as the story itself, I've read complaints that the show has become a bit predictable and no longer surprises us.  But the truth is that it is only predictable and does not provide the surprises it used to because we have been watching this world and characters for many years now.  So we know what to expect better.  If we were back in season 1, knowing what we know now, I think many of us would have some idea that Ned Stark was doomed, and we would have seen the red wedding coming a mile away.  Also, pretty much anything that could happen has been theorized by someone and discussed all over the web.  So, no matter what happens, we have all probably at least heard of the possibility and even latched on to the ones that make the most sense.  Thus, nothing will ever surprise us the way things did in the beginning anymore.