If you believe QBs need to sit in order to be successful, you're basically a retard.

[CRA]

So, if the Jags take Mallet this year in the first they should bench Garrard?

I would let him sit for two years, then come in after he has learned how to be a pro.

Not at first. Garrard isn't Jimmy Clausen....he can play. If Mallett was drafted in the 1st round by the Jags then you would consider playing him late in the season pending the Garrard wasn't making a playoff run.

[Jpjr]

Matt Cassel is smoke and mirrors. Matt Cassell was also so bad at times before Brady blew his knee out that in garbage time he actually benched Cassel and would put Brady back in.

If Jimmy Clausen could run he probably wouldn't be that different than Cassel....other than the fact Cassell doesn't ignore the most talented guy on the field.

... and when such a talented guy is lining up with 2-3 rookie receivers and a rookie QB... neither does the defense. being the shortest receiver on the field doesn't help much either against double coverage.

[CRA]

Just looked it up.

Tom Brady's complete rookie season passing statistics:

1-of-3 passing, for six yards.

I believe all of these were from the Thanksgiving game.... unless I have the wrong year (grew up in Detroit watching Lions)

Tom Brady was a 6th round draft pick who was the 4th QB on the depth chart that year......he went to the Superbowl the next season. He doesn't really belong in his conversation......but you also can't argue he was sat and groomed to be the next QB like it some imply is ideal.

[thefuzz]

Yes. There isn't any benefit to keeping him on the bench for a few years, not knowing if he has what it takes to be their franchise guy. That's why I'm glad Clausen got so many starts.

Imagine how much more divided we'd be if Matt Moore started every game, sucked ass, and we still had the #1 overall pick, with no clue as to whether Jimmy could be our guy. What if we passed on QBs this year and next year only to find out Jimmy stinks in 2012 when we let Matt Moore go run a fruit stand?

That would suck.

Was Jimmy the first pick in the NFL draft. Nope. He was a second round QB, why do you think that he should be as good as Manning and Rivers right out of the gate?

[thefuzz]

Not at first. Garrard isn't Jimmy Clausen....he can play. If Mallett was drafted in the 1st round by the Jags then you would consider playing him late in the season pending the Garrard wasn't making a playoff run.

Nope.

You said that 1st round QB's don't sit unless the QB ahead of him is a HOF or a Pro Bowler, and I disagree.

[CRA]

... and when such a talented guy is lining up with 2-3 rookie receivers and a rookie QB... neither does the defense. being the shortest receiver on the field doesn't help much either against double coverage.

Steve Smith has never had trouble with double coveage pending the QB didn't go full retard. He had no trouble in 2010 in the brief moments Clausen was on the bench......zero trouble with Moore in 2009.....and zero trouble in 2008 when Jake was just bad instead of awful.

[CRA]

Nope.

You said that 1st round QB's don't sit unless the QB ahead of him is a HOF or a Pro Bowler, and I disagree.

I have never stated they should play week 1......I said they don't sit 2-3 yrs. I don't think Cam should start week 1. I think he should start mid to late season once ready for the reps.

Name QBs who sat 2-3 years drafted in the first round.....who weren't behind pro bowl or HOF QBs if you disagree with it?

[SmootsDaddy89]

Was Jimmy the first pick in the NFL draft. Nope. He was a second round QB, why do you think that he should be as good as Manning and Rivers right out of the gate?

Well, even though he was supposed to be a top ten pick, I don't.

However, if Josh Freeman can throw 10TDs in 10 starts, why can't Jimmy?

[jtnc]

Jimmy Clausen is officially ruined because he was started so early, if Delhomme was on the roster and was mentoring him, he'd probably be great this season.

[Mr. Burgundy]

Something tells me this guy was expecting pie for this long ass post...nope... It wouldnt be a bad thing if we had the pleasure of letting Cam sit for a year and educate him before throwing him to the wolves. Growing pains happen on the side lines too. Keep him mentally healthy and confident. tons of sacks your rookie year will scare the skills and abililty right out of you...

That being said, we dont have the pleasure of letting him sit, unless he straight up gets beat by the veteran qb we bring in...

[Mr. Burgundy]

Well, even though he was supposed to be a top ten pick, I don't.

However, if Josh Freeman can throw 10TDs in 10 starts, why can't Jimmy?

because TB as a team was just better by far

[SmootsDaddy89]

because TB as a team was just better by far

His rookie season?

LOL.

And what about the Lions? Stafford threw 13 in 10 games in 2009.

[Sword]

Was Jimmy the first pick in the NFL draft. Nope. He was a second round QB, why do you think that he should be as good as Manning and Rivers right out of the gate?

He was pro ready, he supposedly knew our playbook; he should of at least been able to move the ball down the field..he couldn't even do that. he even sucked in practice. he played so bad that it goes beyond the pieces around him. when we saw him throw the ball the way on 3rd and short or take a sack with no effort to escape were we all thinking "this guy is gonna be a star". Do you really want to see him back starting for the Panthers ever? Really? REALLY? I just don't see him having that high a ceiling right now..at best he's a decent backup 3 or 4 years from now..

[CRA]

because TB as a team was just better by far

Tampa Bay was garbage when Freeman was a rookie......his cast was pretty weak last year as well.