Game changes show Carolina's need for QB

[KaseKlosed]

ohhhh my bad meant to type QB!!!!:rolleyes:

Game changes show Carolina's need for QB

I’ve written several times in recent weeks that the Carolina Panthers are giving strong consideration to using the first pick in the upcoming draft on Auburn quarterback Cam Newton.

One of the reasons I’m saying that is because I believe the departure of former coach John Fox and his offensive philosophy (control the ball with the running game, rely on the occasional pass and win with strong defense) have cause the organization to re-evaluate things. One of the reasons, Newton is getting this kind of consideration is because the Panthers believe that the league has changed and is now, more than ever, driven by quarterbacks.

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What’s that mean? Well, it’s not too hard to visualize. Guys like Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger have been having lots of success and so have their teams. Rules have changed and so have trends in play-calling, scheme and personnel in the past three years.

Want proof? Let’s turn to ESPN Stats & Information for some pretty strong evidence. Starting with the 2008 season (gee, that’s the last year Fox and the Panthers had a winning record) there has been a noticeable league-wide shift from the running game.

Last season, the pass/run ratio (based on play design) was 59 percent to 41 percent. In 2009, it was 58 percent to 42 percent. In 2008, it was 57.2 percent to 42.8 percent. Play design for passes includes plays that resulted in a pass attempt, a sack or a scramble.

The percentage shift might not seem like that big a deal, but let’s explore it a little further. The shift has been very pronounced when you look only at the pass/run ratio of playoff teams over the past three seasons. In 2010, the playoff teams passed on 58.9 of their regular-season plays while running on 41.1 percent of their plays. In 2009, the margin was 57.8 percent to 42.2 percent. In 2008, it was 54.6 percent to 45.4 percent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/19878/game-changes-show-carolinas-need-for-qb

A lot of critics are down on Newton and Missouri quarterback Blaine Gabbert, who also is in the mix to be Carolina’s choice, because both of them lined up in the shotgun formation frequently in college. Well, guess what? That might not be such a bad thing.

Lining up under center is still far more common in the NFL, but the shotgun formation has been used a lot more the past three seasons. In 2010, 38.3 percent of league-wide snaps came out of the shotgun formation, while 61.7 percent came from under center. In 2009, 37 percent of snaps came out of the shotgun formation and the figure was 32.3 percent in 2008.

Another trend has been for offenses to line up in empty-backfield sets and spread out defenses with five receivers. In 2010, the league average was 6.4 snaps per game with just a quarterback in the backfield. In 2009, that average was 4.8. In 2008, it was 4.7.

Bottom line: If the Panthers want to compete in the modern NFL, they’re going to have to scrap the offense Fox and offensive coordinator Jeff Davidson ran and new coach Ron Rivera and coordinator Rob Chudzinski need to use a more creative offensive scheme. It would help if they have a quarterback that allows them to be creative.

[Dpantherman]

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[mav1234]

Bottom line: If the Panthers want to compete in the modern NFL, they’re going to have to scrap the offense Fox and offensive coordinator Jeff Davidson ran and new coach Ron Rivera and coordinator Rob Chudzinski need to use a more creative offensive scheme. It would help if they have a quarterback that allows them to be creative.

yeah because clearly Jimmy Clausen fit what Fox wanted to do so well.

We do need a quarterback. but why the fug would the team keep Fox's offense anyway? Even if you barely watched any Panthers games last year you know just how bad the offense was.

man Yas must have a quota of pooty stories to right about us or something.

[BrownWing]

The truth is you're correct. You are fighting to prove the fact that elite QBs are important, you are correct.

The fact that you think Newton/Gabbert will be an elite QB is yet to be seen.

Posting threads will NOT make them a better players.

[Ricky Spanish]

The truth is you're correct. You are fighting to prove the fact that elite QBs are important, you are correct.

The fact that you think Newton/Gabbert will be an elite QB is yet to be seen.

Posting threads will NOT make them a better players.

yeah but they have a better shot at being great than jimmy clausen does.

[CarolinaKat]

yeah because clearly Jimmy Clausen fit what Fox wanted to do so well.

Clausen is terrible period point blank we all know that. If we're getting rid of the John Fox offense I hope we rid ourselves of his type of QB too. None, not one has ever been anything but average.

Draft Cam.......

[KaseKlosed]

The truth is you're correct. You are fighting to prove the fact that elite QBs are important, you are correct.

The fact that you think Newton/Gabbert will be an elite QB is yet to be seen.

Posting threads will NOT make them a better players.

[Mr. Scot]

The truth is you're correct. You are fighting to prove the fact that elite QBs are important, you are correct.

The fact that you think Newton/Gabbert will be an elite QB is yet to be seen.

This is the part a lot of folks don't seem to grasp.

[Pox 08]

The truth is you're correct. You are fighting to prove the fact that elite QBs are important, you are correct.

The fact that you think Newton/Gabbert will be an elite QB is yet to be seen.

Posting threads will NOT make them a better players.

Depends on how much jedi force we put into our written words.

[CAVSS]

This is the part a lot of folks don't seem to grasp.

I think what a lot off people fail to grasp is that Newty and Gabby have a much better chance of being a franchise QB than Dareus or PP7. :p

[PhillyB]

can it be april 29 so we can cut this bullpoo debate once and for all?

[jarhead]

ohhhh my bad meant to type QB!!!!:rolleyes:

Game changes show Carolina's need for QB

I’ve written several times in recent weeks that the Carolina Panthers are giving strong consideration to using the first pick in the upcoming draft on Auburn quarterback Cam Newton.

One of the reasons I’m saying that is because I believe the departure of former coach John Fox and his offensive philosophy (control the ball with the running game, rely on the occasional pass and win with strong defense) have cause the organization to re-evaluate things. One of the reasons, Newton is getting this kind of consideration is because the Panthers believe that the league has changed and is now, more than ever, driven by quarterbacks.

Year Of The Quarterback

ESPN has dedicated 2011 to examining one of the most crucial positions in all of sports -- the quarterback.

Year of the QB »

What’s that mean? Well, it’s not too hard to visualize. Guys like Aaron Rodgers, Peyton Manning, Drew Brees, Tom Brady and Ben Roethlisberger have been having lots of success and so have their teams. Rules have changed and so have trends in play-calling, scheme and personnel in the past three years.

Want proof? Let’s turn to ESPN Stats & Information for some pretty strong evidence. Starting with the 2008 season (gee, that’s the last year Fox and the Panthers had a winning record) there has been a noticeable league-wide shift from the running game.

Last season, the pass/run ratio (based on play design) was 59 percent to 41 percent. In 2009, it was 58 percent to 42 percent. In 2008, it was 57.2 percent to 42.8 percent. Play design for passes includes plays that resulted in a pass attempt, a sack or a scramble.

The percentage shift might not seem like that big a deal, but let’s explore it a little further. The shift has been very pronounced when you look only at the pass/run ratio of playoff teams over the past three seasons. In 2010, the playoff teams passed on 58.9 of their regular-season plays while running on 41.1 percent of their plays. In 2009, the margin was 57.8 percent to 42.2 percent. In 2008, it was 54.6 percent to 45.4 percent.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id/19878/game-changes-show-carolinas-need-for-qb

A lot of critics are down on Newton and Missouri quarterback Blaine Gabbert, who also is in the mix to be Carolina’s choice, because both of them lined up in the shotgun formation frequently in college. Well, guess what? That might not be such a bad thing.

Lining up under center is still far more common in the NFL, but the shotgun formation has been used a lot more the past three seasons. In 2010, 38.3 percent of league-wide snaps came out of the shotgun formation, while 61.7 percent came from under center. In 2009, 37 percent of snaps came out of the shotgun formation and the figure was 32.3 percent in 2008.

Another trend has been for offenses to line up in empty-backfield sets and spread out defenses with five receivers. In 2010, the league average was 6.4 snaps per game with just a quarterback in the backfield. In 2009, that average was 4.8. In 2008, it was 4.7.

Bottom line: If the Panthers want to compete in the modern NFL, they’re going to have to scrap the offense Fox and offensive coordinator Jeff Davidson ran and new coach Ron Rivera and coordinator Rob Chudzinski need to use a more creative offensive scheme. It would help if they have a quarterback that allows them to be creative.

I agree that you need a great qb but a bad OL can make a great qb look bad and a medicore qb look terrible.I see all the attention on the board discussing

the sexy positions but I feel if we dot have a solid front 4 with depth Cam Newton will look average at best.Regardless of the coach and qb you need a solid front 4 and a good blocking TE and H Back.

[micnificent28]

I agree that you need a great qb but a bad OL can make a great qb look bad and a medicore qb look terrible.I see all the attention on the board discussing

the sexy positions but I feel if we dot have a solid front 4 with depth Cam Newton will look average at best.Regardless of the coach and qb you need a solid front 4 and a good blocking TE and H Back.

tell that to the packers. Depends on the offensive system really,and what you want to do with the ball.

[jarhead]

tell that to the packers. Depends on the offensive system really,and what you want to do with the ball.

So what you are saying is we have a pass first offense with our qbs and wr that we do not need a stout OL? Only in fantasy football