Another year of the Double M and Pickles

[TheRealDeal]

The gap is wider than you think

[teeray]

The gap is wider than you think

false

[TheRealDeal]

You are wrong

[mav1234]

It's not about whether it was fair or not to them, it's what they could do in our new system.

At this point, Newton isn't even the consensus #1 QB, let alone the consensus #1 player. Yet Luck was largely the consensus #1 player in addition to the #1 QB. That should tell you something about perception of the gap. Still, better to look past what others are saying.

Now, we're free to disagree with each other there, but from what I saw between the two, Luck was miles more advanced when it came to an NFL skill set than Newton.

[teeray]

You are wrong

Nuh ugh

[teeray]

It's not about whether it was fair or not to them, it's what they could do in our new system.

At this point, Newton isn't even the consensus #1 QB, let alone the consensus #1 player. Yet Luck was largely the consensus #1 player in addition to the #1 QB. That should tell you something about perception of the gap. Still, better to look past what others are saying.

Now, we're free to disagree with each other there, but from what I saw between the two, Luck was miles more advanced when it came to an NFL skill set than Newton.

Yeah but if you are in most people's top 20 you are thought of as being a big time impact player. If not you should be much lower. Agree??

[CRA]

It's not about whether it was fair or not to them, it's what they could do in our new system.

At this point, Newton isn't even the consensus #1 QB, let alone the consensus #1 player. Yet Luck was largely the consensus #1 player in addition to the #1 QB. That should tell you something about perception of the gap. Still, better to look past what others are saying.

Now, we're free to disagree with each other there, but from what I saw between the two, Luck was miles more advanced when it came to an NFL skill set than Newton.

and Jimmy Clausen was miles ahead of The Golden Calf of Bristol......

yet the complete opposite occured in terms of production and ability to play the position when they took the field.

Newton doesn't need to be a consensus #1 to take him. Like Tampa Bay said when they took Freeman at 17....they would have taken him #1 if that was there spot.

[TheRealDeal]

If Andrew Luck and Cam Newton were recreational basketball leagues at the local Y with increasing skill levels and competition levels as the week progressed (Tuesday = Recreational, Wednesday = Competitive but fun, Thursday = Those guys are ballin), Andrew Luck would be the Thursday league and Cam Newton would be the 8 year old kid shooting hoops outside the gym with his dad.

That's how large the gap is

[TheRealDeal]

and Jimmy Clausen was miles ahead of The Golden Calf of Bristol.....

Says who?

Not the Broncos. Not every other team besides the Panthers

[teeray]

If Andrew Luck and Cam Newton were recreational basketball leagues at the local Y with increasing skill levels and competition levels as the week progressed (Tuesday = Recreational, Wednesday = Competitive but fun, Thursday = Those guys are ballin), Andrew Luck would be the Thursday league and Cam Newton would be the 8 year old kid shooting hoops outside the gym with his dad.

That's how large the gap is

[Millions]

^Production as a rookie The Golden Calf of Bristol showed SOMETHING Fox is just an idiot watch The Golden Calf of Bristol/Orton end up like Moore/Clausen situation last season.

and Jimmy Clausen was miles ahead of The Golden Calf of Bristol......

yet the complete opposite occured in terms of production and ability to play the position when they took the field.

Newton doesn't need to be a consensus #1 to take him. Like Tampa Bay said when they took Freeman at 17....they would have taken him #1 if that was there spot.

+1

[teeray]

If Andrew Luck and Cam Newton were recreational basketball leagues at the local Y with increasing skill levels and competition levels as the week progressed (Tuesday = Recreational, Wednesday = Competitive but fun, Thursday = Those guys are ballin), Andrew Luck would be the Thursday league and Cam Newton would be the 8 year old kid shooting hoops outside the gym with his dad.

That's how large the gap is

[Millions]

Says who?

Not the Broncos. Not every other team besides the Panthers

Clausen was the most nfl ready guy and The Golden Calf of Bristol was "raw" but showed something as a rookie unlike Clausen.

[TheRealDeal]

I thought you moved past the picture posts?

Just as you were starting to get a shred of credibility