Scott Wright's scouting report on Cam Newton

[Catalyst]

Wright also said after last year's draft that Clausen would have a better career than Sam Bradford. And in 2007 said Dwayne Jarrett was a huge steal and would 'absolutely out-perform this pick.'

Not saying he's always wrong, but his opinion doesn't really carry anymore weight with me than anyone elses. All these draft "experts" are just people with opinions and some football knowledge to back them up. Doesn't mean they're always wrong or right.

[Catalyst]

Pfffttttt If they want to hate on Cam they should say that Andrew Luck has red flags too. After all he did stay in the NFL when he could be making millions by playing a game he supposedly loves. This automatically means quite a few things. Andew Luck

1. Doesn't have passion for football

2. Is retarded because he just gave away millions

3. Is sex addicted drunk, because sex and beer are the only reasons to stay in college.

Since the scouts want to judge Cam unfairly, I can judge the scouts golden boy unfairly.

Honestly, Luck's decision does have me wondering about his mental makeup a bit. There was no real good smart reason to not enter the draft. He potentially gave up TENS of millions of dollars just due to the rookie wage scale, plus if he were to get hurt he'd lose even more, or he could always become the next Jake Locker.

What it makes me wonder is how ready he is to handle the spotlight of the NFL and the pressure that goes along with it. He's obviously got the total package as a QB, and seems like a real smart guy with a high football IQ, but at the same time, passing up as much as he did - and as much as he potentially could be passing up depending on injury/performance - does make me wonder about how he may pan out as a pro.

[Eazy-E]

Just makes me laugh. Cams weaknesses are leadership, intelligence, work ethic, instincts, and struggles with the deep ball? Yet none of these are a weakness for Gabbert? What I am missing. How is Cams leadership in question? He only "lead" 2 teams to championships on two different levels. Honestly Cam and Gabbert are equals as prospects imo just Cam seems to have a greater potential.

[Stumpy]

Honestly, Luck's decision does have me wondering about his mental makeup a bit. There was no real good smart reason to not enter the draft. He potentially gave up TENS of millions of dollars just due to the rookie wage scale, plus if he were to get hurt he'd lose even more, or he could always become the next Jake Locker.

What it makes me wonder is how ready he is to handle the spotlight of the NFL and the pressure that goes along with it. He's obviously got the total package as a QB, and seems like a real smart guy with a high football IQ, but at the same time, passing up as much as he did - and as much as he potentially could be passing up depending on injury/performance - does make me wonder about how he may pan out as a pro.

It seemed to work out okay for Peyton Manning.

Also, and this is not necessarily directed at you SCP, the Cam fans suggesting that Luck might be the next Locker makes me laugh every time I hear it. Wait, you mean that a QB who had one great season might turn out to be a pooty QB :eek:!

[nagai]

Honestly, Luck's decision does have me wondering about his mental makeup a bit. There was no real good smart reason to not enter the draft. He potentially gave up TENS of millions of dollars just due to the rookie wage scale, plus if he were to get hurt he'd lose even more, or he could always become the next Jake Locker.

What it makes me wonder is how ready he is to handle the spotlight of the NFL and the pressure that goes along with it. He's obviously got the total package as a QB, and seems like a real smart guy with a high football IQ, but at the same time, passing up as much as he did - and as much as he potentially could be passing up depending on injury/performance - does make me wonder about how he may pan out as a pro.

Put it this way, if you're looking at this as a business decision, it's pretty bad. Not all decisions are about business though.

[Catalyst]

It seemed to work out okay for Peyton Manning.

Also, and this is not necessarily directed at you SCP, the Cam fans suggesting that Luck might be the next Locker makes me laugh every time I hear it. Wait, you mean that a QB who had one great season might turn out to be a pooty QB :eek:!

Of course they can. I've never heard any of my fellow Cam supporters say otherwise. And I don't think Luck will be that guy, TBH. My question is: if Locker's accuracy issues are so awful, were they not noticed BEFORE last season? I mean, accuracy is a pretty fundamental aspect of a QB's game and usually doesn't change year-to-year.

[Stumpy]

Of course they can. I've never heard any of my fellow Cam supporters say otherwise. And I don't think Luck will be that guy, TBH. My question is: if Locker's accuracy issues are so awful, were they not noticed BEFORE last season? I mean, accuracy is a pretty fundamental aspect of a QB's game and usually doesn't change year-to-year.

Like I said, that wasn't aimed at you. But, I have seen quite a few "huggers" say that Cam will be a great NFL QB, and then turn around and say that Luck will fail without Harbaugh.

[RHCPanther]

You're so wise, great sage :cool:

Seriously though, this guy's been one of the most accurate draftniks in recent years. If we ranked draft guys into tiers, I would have

Tier 1: Mayock

Tier 2: Gosselin, Wright, Kirwan, maybe Charles Davis but only because he gets his stuff from Mayock

Tier 3: Kiper, McShay, everyone else.

That accuracy comes in mock drafts though, not draft profiles. This profile isn't really all that informative, it's pretty safe. For the average fan, it's an easy way for you to learn about your draft prospects, but it won't really have any great pieces of insight.

People can hate on Nawrocki's work on draft profiles but he has an enviable record in recent years as a draftnik.

[pantherj]

Just makes me laugh. Cams weaknesses are leadership, intelligence, work ethic, instincts, and struggles with the deep ball? Yet none of these are a weakness for Gabbert? What I am missing. How is Cams leadership in question? He only "lead" 2 teams to championships on two different levels. Honestly Cam and Gabbert are equals as prospects imo just Cam seems to have a greater potential.

Experts are turning a blind eye to Gabbert's obvious flaws. Gabbert missed reads to the point where I began to wonder if he was partially blind. I don't even think Gabbert is a first round QB. He might go in the 1st to some sad team that has no other choice but to take him because he's tall and strong, but I think he plays like a bust.

[pantherj]

Also, the idea of Gabbert throwing deep passes in the NFL is comical. He's not accurate, although sometimes he can get hot. No thanks. I'd rather punt on 3rd down than rely on Gabbert to throw deep in our system, now or after 3 years on the bench.

[panthers55]

People can hate on Nawrocki's work on draft profiles but he has an enviable record in recent years as a draftnik.

It looks like even the best mock draft guys are wrong 2/3rds of the time. Puts into perspective that they are wrong way more than they are right. That makes sense though because once you are wrong with the first pick it impacts the next one on down the line. But it does go to show that mock drafts are really a waste of time to put much stock in.

As forr Wright's evaluation it breaks no new ground or tells us anything new. Seems like what the Panthers are learning about Newton as we speak is more important to our future than all the mocks drafts put together.

[nagai]

People can hate on Nawrocki's work on draft profiles but he has an enviable record in recent years as a draftnik.

Yep, my interest has been piqued. How good has he been in other years?

Oh and btw, of course draftniks aren't accurate. Think about the average mock draft, now think about how many trades you see in them. OK, got that? Now compare that to the amount of trades you see on draft day. The very conventions of predicting the draft are flawed. You just know that things won't turn out the way people try to predict them. However, that doesn't mean that these draftniks are useless. I respect Mayock for example because he can actually call these crazy trades on draft day. He's obviously still skilled.

[panthers55]

Yep, my interest has been piqued. How good has he been in other years?

Oh and btw, of course draftniks aren't accurate. Think about the average mock draft, now think about how many trades you see in them. OK, got that? Now compare that to the amount of trades you see on draft day. The very conventions of predicting the draft are flawed. You just know that things won't turn out the way people try to predict them. However, that doesn't mean that these draftniks are useless. I respect Mayock for example because he can actually call these crazy trades on draft day. He's obviously still skilled.

Seems to me that they are best served talkinng about whether they are a first round talent versus a 3 round talent. And they draft profiles can shed some information about how they are being evaluated. But to predict a mock draft with any accuracy, 33% accuracy in most other professional endeavors would be terrible not enviable.

[AceMan]

PP is his only 5 star prospect

;)

Edit: A.J. Green is a 5-start prospect as well