NFL Exec.: Cam Would Be Clear-Cut #1, If He Were White (And Other Valuable Nuggets)

[Shufdog]

The black QB comparisons are not racial, they are generally statistical. I don't think any team cares whether a player is white, black, green, purple, male, female, etc as long as they produce. The same analogy came be said about white receivers or white running backs.

I disagree. If a player was green or purple everybody and their cousins best friends sister would be talking about what race they were! :D

[teeray]

What is it to assume that every source who's said something bad about him to journalists and analysts is white?

Falling into a trap of racial bias can happen to anyone that is any color. This has been a sticking point for a lot of people. RACIAL BIAS ISN'T ABOUT RACISM. People who fall into the trap aren't necessatily racists.

It is about having certain stereotypes that force players of a certain color to have to DO MORE than other players to dispel certain criticisms or critiques that are unjustified just because of the color of their skin and not their actual body of work or any other evidence.

And yes it does happen across different races. That doesn't disprove my point it only strengthens it.

In basketball it happens a lot. White guys always have scoutong reports like "high basketball IQ" and "hustles on every play" but they also almost always have "lacks athleticism".

I am a UNC fan and that is to a tee what people said about Hansbrough coming out for the NBA. It was also bullpoo. This was a guy that was 6'9 ran like a deer and could jump high enough to dunk with two hands over a 7'6 guy (the dude from UNC-A that had his foot amputated). Did he work hard? Heck yeah but he was a damn good athlete as well.

Some have pointed out that white receivers are a group that faces racial bias.

It isn't that ONLY a QB that is black faces certain criticisms and white QBs are immune to them. But often time black QBs have to disprove certain things even if they aren't warranted criticisms. Black QBs have to do MORE to prove they are intelligent, that they have good work ethic, and that they can be leaders than a white QB does. Again that doesn't mean that white QBs are immune from having their intelligence, leadership, or work ethic criticized. But most white QBs usually have to prove in some way that they ARE DEFICIENT in these skills whereas most black QBs have to PROVE THEY ARE EFFECIENT at these area even if there is no proof that they shouldn't be. Often times they are fighting these negatives before there is any proof they even exist.

Now regarding Cam I am not so sure he has been victim of a lot of racial bias. Most of the character questions are from things he brought upon himself and he can't blame anyone but himself.

Some of the football criticism MIGHT have a little bit of bias (like questioning of his intelligence for example). But the bottom line is right now he is the front runner to be the #1 overall pick so some GMs seem to be okay with his skills so it didn't hurt him too much.

But the bottom line is that racial bias can also come from someone who is black who is critiquing a black QB. It is about how black players who play the QB position are viewed not about the people analyzing them and their views on race as a whole. Because RACIAL BIAS and RACISM are not the same thing.

[sdot353]

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/39055/video-cam-newton-body-language

[Fiz]

It's pretty funny watching Mr. Scot trying to tip toe around his blatant racist inclinations in all of these threads.

[C47]

If we are just looking at college production on the field and upside why would Gabbert/Locker be rated over someone that had a season like Cam did? because of stuff that happened three years ago you really think so?

Hmm where to begin maybe it's the fact that academic cheating, knowingly purchasing a stolen laptop and then chucking it out the window when the police come to question you not to mention letting your dad pimp you to the highest bidder (don't even try to bring up the NCAA's ruling about Cam not knowing) are HUGE character concerns. Maybe that's why people feel guys like Gabbert, Locker, Kaepernick and to some even Tyrod Taylor are better guys for the long term success of this team. No that couldn't be it....we're all just racist fugs....

[Zcustom]

In ten years it will be funny to look back and see how all of this panned out.

Why do I get the feeling you say this a LOT

[paulSM]

One day, a black man WILL be drafted with the number one pick. How this has never happened before is reprehensible in this day and age.

yeah... that's why 2 of the last 8 qbs picked #1 overall are black. More black athletes pick other positions in college... it's not a draft problem. A team is going to pick the player they think will help them the most. being racist is stupid. When was the last white receiver picked in the first round? This whole thread is stupid. The whole argument is stupid. Racism is very real in poor/ un-educated areas. The NFL execs are neither. they pick the player that will benefit their team. period

[C47]

Why do I get the feeling you say this a LOT

In ten years he will be too busy stalking high schools....I keed I keed....

[Pox 08]

So he's either comparable to Russell, a guy that wasn't a good all around athlete, but had a cannon for an arm... or The Golden Calf of Bristol, a kid that is a good athlete, but had a throwing motion so horrible that it knocked him out of the top 5. Maybe It's just me, but I don't see Newton really comparable to either Russell or The Golden Calf of Bristol.

[sdot353]

This is 100% accurate his off the field stuff was 3 years ago based off his accolades/stats in college alone there is no way he shouldn't be the first QB taken and the clear cut best prospect with his upside/stats. When you consider the QB position is the most important position in the NFL today.

People will bring up The Golden Calf of Bristol but Cam is a more natural passer than The Golden Calf of Bristol coming out his passing has been very underrated by many because of his legs. When you have guys like Gabbert, Locker rated over someone that had a season like Cam did it points to racial bias.

http://espn.go.com/blog/nflnation/post/_/id/39055/video-com-newton-body-language THIS SAY A LOT CHECK IT OUT!!

[C47]

yeah... that's why 2 of the last 8 qbs picked #1 overall are black. More black athletes pick other positions in college... it's not a draft problem. A team is going to pick the player they think will help them the most. being racist is stupid. When was the last white receiver picked in the first round? This whole thread is stupid. The whole argument is stupid. Racism is very real in poor/ un-educated areas. The NFL execs are neither. they pick the player that will benefit their team. period

Technically he was a dual threat QB in college though....

[Snake]

there are going to be alot of disappointed fans on here when carolina trades down and takes Patric lotk Peterson. Its a no brainer, trading down picking up an extra pick and then taking the best player in the draft.

There are going to be a lot of disappointed fans when we take Newton first overall.

[Pox 08]

Hmm where to begin maybe it's the fact that academic cheating' date=' knowingly purchasing a stolen laptop and then chucking it out the window when the police come to question you not to mention letting your dad pimp you to the highest bidder (don't even try to bring up the NCAA's ruling about Cam not knowing) are HUGE character concerns. Maybe that's why people feel guys like Gabbert, Locker, Kaepernick and to some even Tyrod Taylor are better guys for the long term success of this team. No that couldn't be it....we're all just racist fugs....[/quote']

I once saw Cam Newton eating a crayon in the third grade. What a bastard, that was school property.

[teeray]

I once saw Cam Newton eating a crayon in the third grade. What a bastard, that was school property.

Waste of taxpayer money too. :nonod: