Doesn't matter who at #1, Moore/Clausen/Vet will start

[mav1234]

better off asking Rivers and Rodgers.

The main reason to sit Cam Newton is that he is incredibly, incredibly raw, and he needs a ton of reps to up his consistency when it comes to throwing the ball... but you just said he needs reps!! PLAY HIM!! no... You sit him because he needs reps in practice, adjusting to the speed of NFL players a bit on both sides of the ball. He needs to keep working on his drop backs, his routes. He needs time, more than anything. If you force him out early you risk injury because he is forcing things with his legs too much, imo... but hey, I could be wrong.

Depending on how quickly Shula can work with him you may see him come in next year, but I don't think it will be early.

[Ohio]

Palmer only sat behind Kitna for 3 games before taking over

His rookie year was 2003. LOOK IT UP. I was right.

[jtnc]

We'll see how Newton does in the pre-season.

[Panths]

Doesn't matter if the rookie sits in line, if our OL plays like last season he'll be starting after a few weeks anyways

[panthers55]

I would hope that the best player starts. The guy who gives us the best chance to win. Yeah it is trite but true. I don't think you put in Newton because you draft him number 1. You put him in because he is your best option.

Last year I said that if Clausen started we were in a world of hurt. Similarly if Newton starts we are likely not doing well this year. If someone else is starting it means that they are playing well and that is what every panther fan would want, you would think. Options at quarterback and more than one guy who can play. Whether it is the veteran or Clausen or Moore, you hope they play better than a rookie draft choice. If the rookie is the best thing you have on your staff, you are hurting already. I have high hopes for Newton if we draft him, but not right away. If he can sit and we still finish better than 500, you have to figure that would be the ideal.

[mountainpantherfan]

Newton has potential, yes. But his mechanics are questionable. He has great arm strength, but his accuracy isn't up to par. Some scouts believe he needs to change his throwing mechanics or it will cause him injuries down the road.

The offense he came from is questionable, along with only starting for 1 year in Division I football.

Newton's character issues are something you can't look past, but that's not all, from what has been put out there, he comes off as an immature kid that's selfish and disobedient.

I wouldn't mind Newton at all if he had at least 2 years experience, better mechanics, had experience in an offense with drop backs (preferably Pro style), and I wouldn't look past the character concerns, but that wouldn't play as big of a role in my decision making.

You do realize there have been Super Bowl winning quarterbacks who had very similar reviews coming into the draft. A lot of it comes down to coaching and the players willingness to being good.

Newton isn't as bad as you think he his. I'm still not sure if really can be as good as others say he is but I know he isn't as bad as many are saying.

[mountainpantherfan]

I would hope that the best player starts. The guy who gives us the best chance to win. Yeah it is trite but true. I don't think you put in Newton because you draft him number 1. You put him in because he is your best option.

Last year I said that if Clausen started we were in a world of hurt. Similarly if Newton starts we are likely not doing well this year. If someone else is starting it means that they are playing well and that is what every panther fan would want, you would think. Options at quarterback and more than one guy who can play. Whether it is the veteran or Clausen or Moore, you hope they play better than a rookie draft choice. If the rookie is the best thing you have on your staff, you are hurting already. I have high hopes for Newton if we draft him, but not right away. If he can sit and we still finish better than 500, you have to figure that would be the ideal.

I just realized someone earlier made a statement about Big Ben starting year one. That wasn't the plan and Ben didn't start until I think the 4th game of the season after Madox went down. Big Ben was able to step up to the opportunity.

The ideal situation is if Newton is a Panther he doesn't play in 2011. How that works out with Moore, Clausen, or unknown player, I don't know. But thats ideal. Things sometimes work out for the best like Ben or like Sam Bradford who I really thought wouldn't be ready but was.

Let's just hope that if Newton is a Panther and he does have to start early the situation doesn't end up being a bad one.

[CBDellinger]

Other than rodgers what other qbs have benefited from riding the pine for year or 2 behind a vet ?

Vick sat for a year b4 he played.

[CBDellinger]

I just realized someone earlier made a statement about Big Ben starting year one. That wasn't the plan and Ben didn't start until I think the 4th game of the season after Madox went down. Big Ben was able to step up to the opportunity.

The ideal situation is if Newton is a Panther he doesn't play in 2011. How that works out with Moore, Clausen, or unknown player, I don't know. But thats ideal. Things sometimes work out for the best like Ben or like Sam Bradford who I really thought wouldn't be ready but was.

Let's just hope that if Newton is a Panther and he does have to start early the situation doesn't end up being a bad one.

And they said Ben only know 1 route of one WR on every play... he made one read and the rest was all improv.

[teeray]

I just realized someone earlier made a statement about Big Ben starting year one. That wasn't the plan and Ben didn't start until I think the 4th game of the season after Madox went down. Big Ben was able to step up to the opportunity.

The ideal situation is if Newton is a Panther he doesn't play in 2011. How that works out with Moore, Clausen, or unknown player, I don't know. But thats ideal. Things sometimes work out for the best like Ben or like Sam Bradford who I really thought wouldn't be ready but was.

Let's just hope that if Newton is a Panther and he does have to start early the situation doesn't end up being a bad one.

You may have been referring to me bc I mentioned Big Ben. I didn't mean that to infer that I thought since Ben did it so can Cam. I meant it as an example of someone who scouts thought would need time to adjust but was able to make the transition quickly and be a really good QB day one.

I don't know if Cam would be able to do that. But he might. No one knows till they get there.

Maybe Cam works his butt off and is our starter after three games. Maybe it takes a whole season. Again no one knows.

So I am not going to say it will take 2-3 years because I don't know that. Also people shouldn't say he can't start for us at some point next sesaon and be effective bc they don't know.

I hate to keep talking about The Golden Calf of Bristol but he was VERY productive in his three starts last year and he was supposed to be the least NFL ready of all the top end QBs last year. Meanwhile the most NFL ready QB..........

[teeray]

I do agree he shouldn't start before he os ready though.

[Ricky Spanish]

Other than rodgers what other qbs have benefited from riding the pine for year or 2 behind a vet ?

Rivers

Palmer

Vick

Hasselbeck

Cassel

Brady

Schaub

Brees

Romo

Young (steve)

but no you're right, all QBs who start right away are great.

[Panthercougar68]

If we do draft Newton, Gabbert, Mallet, ete etc I would like to see them start at least a few games towards the end of the season. It Just because they sit a year doesn't mean they come into the starting role full swing. I'd rather them get some playing time in real game situations then have them not see the field at all. Rodgers still struggled in his first full season even though he sat on the bench learning the game. You can only learn so much from a bench.

Honestly though sitting a year might be the case and it might not. We probably won't know anything till the week of training camp...

if there is camp :(

[Mr. Scot]

Why.

The.

fug.

Would you start Matt Moore or Jimmy Clausen over Cam Newton?

I'd start either of them over any rookie, especially one that didn't play in a pro style system (i.e. everyone but Mallett, whom I wouldn't start either).