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Cam Newton Statistically Similar to A Rodgers

KaseKlosed

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mav1234 Grand Master

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These guys are not the same but I found it interesting and impressive

there were many things to be impressed about in Cam's college season. Not trying to take any of that away from him, and if you find this comparison useful that's fine. I just don't find it informative, but we're free to disagree :)

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No it doesn't but for comparison purposes which is what you have at the college level it is important. If you ignore college performances totally then exactly what do you base your decision on? His pro day or combine performance? Ignoring their performance in college which you apparently want to do is ridiculous.

Matt Cassel seemed to turn out fine.

You should make your decision with size, attitude, understanding of the game, footwork, accuracy, work ethic, swagger, "it" factor.

College stats should have little to no affect on your decision in drafting a qb, they are slightly helpful yeah...but if you do base most of your analysis on stats you wind up thinking Colt Brennan is Jesus.

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College stats = nfl success. Gotcha.

On throws of 15 yards or more in their respective conference games last season, Newton completed 49 percent of his passes with seven touchdowns and three interceptions. Gabbert completed 37.5 percent of his passes with four touchdowns and two interceptions.

Yasinkas also compared the numbers of the two quarterbacks when they were facing a blitz. He found that when a defense sent five or more players after the quarterback, it was Newton who looked better. Newton completed 73.5 percent of his passes for five touchdowns and zero interceptions while being rushed while Gabbert only completed 44.8 percent of his passes for four touchdowns and zero interceptions when they were rushed. If Newton is good under presser, it may come in handy in the blitz happy AFC North.

Newton’s got a reputation for being mobile that’s backed up by his success throwing outside the pocket. In conference games, he completed 20 of 30 throws outside the pocket with two touchdowns and averaged 9.7 yards per attempt. In similar situations, Gabbert completed six of 20 passes with one touchdown and averaged 4.5 yards per attempt.

While Newton's speed and athleticism makes some weary that he's not a typical NFL pocket passer, Yasinkas argues that his numbers tell a different story.

Newton’s mobility has some people thinking he’s not a pocket passer, but the numbers tell a different story. In conference games, Newton completed 67.7 percent of his passes with 14 touchdowns and three interceptions. Gabbert completed 61.1 percent with nine touchdowns and four interceptions.

Yasinkas makes one final point: Blaine Gabbert threw 267 passes against Big-12 opponents and every single one of them were from the shotgun formation.

I mean damn

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No it doesn't but for comparison purposes which is what you have at the college level it is important. If you ignore college performances totally then exactly what do you base your decision on? His pro day or combine performance? Ignoring their performance in college which you apparently want to do is ridiculous.

You don't ignore the game film but you at least don't value the stats coming FROM that film highly. You watch how a player played, what he did, what the outcome was, what skills he's using and how his tools might transition to the NFL based on what you see.

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First: I'm a bit of a Mizzou homer. I have alumni family from Mizzou and I've adopted them a bit as one of the teams I follow because my undergrad college didn't have a team. I've actually watched him play a bunch of times and what I see is a QB that can make plays with his arm and extend plays with his legs and gain critical yards with them when necessary... His primary concern is winning, not how he does it. He can really pick apart some good defenses when he's in rhythm. He's very smart and a strong leader. Great work ethic from everything I've read and heard. I like that he knew that if he wanted to go to the pros and still go to Mizzou he'd have to put in extra time in the off-season and he was willing to do it. I like that despite the fact he lost the receivers he was familiar with he still put his offense on his back in a couple games and did well and though his stats don't show it his offense moved the ball very well overall in most games. I like that he's athletic, tall, strong, dedicated to football. His teammates love him, guys who have barely spent any time with him react extremely positively to him. NONE OF THIS IS MEANT TO SAY HE DOES ANY OF THIS BETTER THAN CAM NEWTON, I just have more exposure to Gabbert so I am more certain about him. Despite all that, Gabbert still has problems... the most concerning to me is how he reacts to pressure, but he worked on that quite a bit and had been improving through the season. He's sometimes prone to poor decision making but overall he takes VERY good care of the ball considering how much he throws it around the field.

Truth be told, I wish he had spent another year at Mizzou because I loved watching him there. But it is probably best for his development as a pro QB to move on from there for now.

...and all that, and I still don't want him #1... or any QB.

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I know this won't be read as this thread has already descended into petty rivalries already however...

There is a lot of 'abouts', 'nearlys' or 'almosts' interwoven with every single point they make.

What is more of an issue, is they are taking a direct comparison to one player. What they need to do is get a range of players (including other college players). Otherwise this kinda achieves nothing as we don't know what the 'norm' is.

Now, what makes Rodgers an elite QB? His elusiveness? Nope, it's his accuracy. I haven't seen someone as accurate as him in a long time, including the other greats playing today. When he plays well, virtually every single pass is on the money. I am not talking about completing high percentage passes or making completions, he would routinely land it in the perfect place so the receiver doesn't break stride or the opponent has no chance at the ball - usually in the smallest of windows.

Cam, flat out, does not have that accuracy.

Why is this significant? Because Rodgers can take advantage of defences trying to get him with the pass rush virtually ever time, Cam doesn't have the accuracy to do that.

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To the OP did you ever read the Scouting report on Rogers? I notice you used stats not scouting reports. I say this because I posted a link to his scouting report a while back and Rogers was much, much, much more pro ready and more highly thought of as a pro ready QB than Cam.

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Not that I have a dog in the fight cause I am pro-Cam... but this is the worst comparison ever... You can't compare stats from a man in the NFL to a man in college. The two are nothing alike.

I like Cam, but to compare him to Rodgers in any way is just silly.

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