Racism Quiz

[TheRealDeal]

The flip side TRD is if you convince yourself is doesn't exist then it will continue and go unchecked.

But I already admitted that it existed, I just don't think it's there at every twist and turn of life.

Because Cam did bad thing in his past and someone writes a negative article about him, doesn't mean he's racist or has a racial bias.

Warren Moon didn't have a rebuttal, felt weak and helpless from the criticisms, and pulled the race card.

This isn't something new.

[Proudiddy]

Coward :lol:

Come on. Nawrocki is racist (or racially boased), remember? We should be able to tell that in what he writes about certain prospects.

Unless, maybe, the whole accusation was a steaming pile of horse $#&@ :eek:

Considering that Warren Moon didn't directly implicate any specific member of the media in his statement and you branched this thread off to bring attention to your own stance on the issues... Yes the "accusation" that someone accuse Nawrocki a racist is "a steaming pile of horse sh*t."

Yet again, you try to force everyone to believe they can assume EVERYONE in the media is unbiased because of a flawed quiz you made up that doesn't prove or disprove one guy in the media's stance on race to being with.

True cowardice is not facing reality. You continue to get offended by accusations of racism from someone who's perspective you will never understand yourself. How many of these - "I'm not racist" and "He's not racist" threads are you going to make before people start realizing there are some issues you are not dealing with yourself?

See, and here you go again just trying to say the same thing in a different way.

If it's "racial bias" that Nawrocki suffers from, then we ought to be able to tell by common themes in his writing.

You can't find them (in your case, you're not even going to test it).

Translation:

"There you go again, doing a Mr. Scot.

If Nawrocki is racist, then why don't you go through quotes from a limited sample size I've gathered for you with the sole purpose of trying to demonstrate he's not racist. Oh and Warren Moon never accused him of being racist, but I thought this would be a good time to make another thread and show everyone how NOT RACIST this country is.

You can't find them because I went into the concept of making this quiz with flawed logic with the sole purpose being to prove one guy isn't racist, so we're all not racist!"

I understand what you want to say here. But sorry, there's nothing worthy of respect about accusing a guy of racism without good reason.

Just the opposite in fact. In doing this, Moon is practicing the very ignorance he's accusing Nawrocki of.

I ave loads of respect for Warren Moon and everything that he accomplished, but not for this. This is wrong.

WARREN MOON NEVER ACCUSED NAWROCKI OF BEING RACIST. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS FROM? THAT IS WHY THIS THREAD IS POINTLESS AND YOU ARE PURPOSELY SPINNING IT TO MISLEAD PEOPLE ABOUT THE ACTUAL ARTICLE ABOUT WHAT MOON SAID.

[ElkinPanthersFan]

Also want to point out that I have never once accused PFW of any of this. I'm just not ignorant enough to believe I can prove it doesn't exist. Cam has questions he brought on himself and it has nothing to do with race. He needs to answer those questions.

But even so I would never dream of playing a "racism quiz" and trivialize something that I have seen effect so many people. It isn't cowardice; it is respect to those who have to deal with this crap.

Ultimately, they are professional athletes and by this stage in their life have a pretty high barrier to this stuff. However, doesn't everyone deal with racism at some point in their life? Directly or Indirectly, it affects everyone.

I mean look at what Danny Woodhead and Hillis have gone through. Woodhead was never said to be a RB nor Hillis because they didn't have the tools. Did they not have the tools because of their race? We won't know.

These cats are professional athletes. I'd gladly take the racism they get for the money they get paid. We take racism as we grow up and make a 10th of what most will make in their careers. I took it in high school and I'm sure many others have as well.

Most of what is being said by writers is what was said about The Golden Calf of Bristol. Wasn't The Golden Calf of Bristol the Shining White Knight of college sports (meaning as clean as they come and safe pick)? Many of their writeups have the same weakenesses and strengths as Cam. People sure as hell didn't want us to draft The Golden Calf of Bristol. KT was one of those people. He said it was based on his skill set.

Now, fast forward one year and we have the same issue but a person of a different color. If we didnt agree with KT, you were labelled as racist. Half the board doesn't want him because of his football skill set and has nothing to do with his race, yet those posters are hammered for being racist. I am not naive to believe that they don't exist on this board, but not to the amount people believe. I just want this crap to be over honestly.

[TheRealDeal]

WARREN MOON NEVER ACCUSED NAWROCKI OF BEING RACIST. WHERE ARE YOU GETTING THIS FROM? THAT IS WHY THIS THREAD IS POINTLESS AND YOU ARE PURPOSELY SPINNING IT TO MISLEAD PEOPLE ABOUT THE ACTUAL ARTICLE ABOUT WHAT MOON SAID.

To be fair he did specifically mention some of the critiques from Nawrocki towards Cam so you could infer that he was referring to Nawrocki and you wouldn't be making a huge jump

[tarheelpride]

Six wrong.

I could knock off an extra point since you made number eight plural, but I'll be nice :sosp:

accident, i promise :D

[Proudiddy]

To be fair he did specifically mention some of the critiques from Nawrocki towards Cam so you could infer that he was referring to Nawrocki and you wouldn't be making a huge jump

But this is exactly why these threads won't stop... Perceptions about race and the inferences people are drawing from these situations have pretty much been cultivated and ingrained in them since they were a child to their current level of understanding...

So, someone on a message board isn't going to convince someone else to change that in one post's time. It's just getting pointless to discuss here in general.

I'm just ready for the pick to be made so we can move on.

[ncmonzta]

But this is exactly why these threads won't stop... Perceptions about race and the inferences people are drawing from these situations have pretty much been cultivated and ingrained in them since they were a child to their current level of understanding...

So, someone on a message board isn't going to convince someone else to change that in one post's time. It's just getting pointless to discuss here in general.

I'm just ready for the pick to be made so we can move on.

Even with all the sense you've made with your post they still will ignore it and keep saying the same thing. Its how they were raised.:rolleyes: Unfortunately we have to deal with racism while it doesn't really exist

[TheRealDeal]

I was just responding to the shouting you did that he didn't call Nawrocki a racist.

He basically called him a racist. He said his analysis was racially based.

So I think you were wrong on that point and I was just responding.

[ElkinPanthersFan]

I think everytime racism is said it should come up with Genetics as a replacement word :P

[TheRealDeal]

Even with all the sense you've made with your post they still will ignore it and keep saying the same thing. It how they were raised.:rolleyes:

You don't know how anyone was raised and you sound dumber with each post.

Proudiddy and I were raised basically the same way, but we have different views.

[ncmonzta]

You don't know how anyone was raised and you sound dumber with each post.

Proudiddy and I were raised basically the same way, but we have different views.

different in the house though with different parents. If you can't be reasonable enough to admit there's a tad bit of racism towards Cam in the media then there's obviously some common sense missing. How can you be raised around black people all your life but fail to see the racist bias

[teeray]

Can the fugging draft just be here already. This poo is rediculous.

[Proudiddy]

I was just responding to the shouting you did that he didn't call Nawrocki a racist.

He basically called him a racist. He said his analysis was racially based.

So I think you were wrong on that point and I was just responding.

I know, I wasn't directing that at you about "why these threads won't stop" I was directing it at Mr. Scot and everyone else who has made a thread about race recently.

He's not going to change anyone's mind, and he's made it clear that no matter how much logic anyone else uses for their argument, they aren't going to change his either.

And Moon never directly states that Nawrocki is his target. He's talking about the media in general. And I don't read Nawrocki, but the stuff about being phony and fake has been said elsewhere as well - it's not unique to Nawrocki if he has said it. I've heard analysts discuss it...

So, making this entire thread about how not-racist Nawrocki is serves no purpose IMO. Because whether he is or not doesn't matter - Moon was still talking about the overwhelming amount of media coverage of Cam. So we can't induce because one guy (that was never directly referred to in the article) is or isn't racist that all other media-types follow suit. It's ridiculous.

[rico6]

Racism? Nooooooo, prejudice? Oh most definitely. However, that is applied to most QB's in Cam's position anyways.

Now Warren was just pointing out the Media's prejudice against Black QB's, and took a more direct jab at Narwocki (or however in the hell you spell his name) and his criticisms of Cam Newton. Which were in fact blatantly biased, and just downright insulting.

If Warren was calling the guy a racist, it would have been more apparent than "He judges White QB's much more differently than Black QB's".

Leave it to Diddy to steal my post premise. :rolleyes: