Pros and Cons of Starting Rookie QBs

[jtnc]

Yeah, I doubt Rivera would start the QB we're drafting. We need to re-sign Matt Moore or find a stop-gap qb for a year or two.

[Jangler]

Con: 2010 Panthers.

Pro: 2010 Rams

[CRA]

I am generally against starting rookie QBs......but if your other option is a 2nd year Clausen then I probably would be for it.

[Cyberjag]

I think there are two elements that a QB has to master before they can really perform efficiently at the NFL level. One is obviously the playbook, and the other is the speed of the game compared to college. A rookie QB has to work through both of these at once, possibly while he's still physically maturing, while sitting for a year lets you get a sense of the speed while you learn the playbook. There's an obvious advantage there.

In Bradford's case, there have been several articles mentioning how they changed the playbook to protect him, and had him on a three second timer before he was instructed to get rid of the ball. That helped a lot as far as adjusting to the speed of the game. In Manning's case, he was NFL ready in high school...

[Ricky Spanish]

i think that the past couple years have been anomalies in the rookie QB department. flacco, ryan, and bradford all over achieved. sanchez played like a rookie but got better as the year went on.

i say sit your rookie QB just to be safe or you might end up with another david carr or alex smith, a broken shell of a QB.

[Snake]

There is prob a 90% chance we start a Rookie QB if we draft one first overall.

[CRA]

i think that the past couple years have been anomalies in the rookie QB department. flacco, ryan, and bradford all over achieved. sanchez played like a rookie but got better as the year went on.

i say sit your rookie QB just to be safe or you might end up with another david carr or alex smith, a broken shell of a QB.

in today's NFL, rookies are expected to at least step up and show some potential as rookies.

The rookies who do that far out number the ones who sit the bench (of course that isn't including late round QBs).

Clausen is an anomalie in the fact he is one of the very few rookies who saw the field for an extended period (10 starts)....and showed zip, zilch, nada.

[CarolinaVeins]

It doesn't have to be an either/or thing. Say you have a rookie learning under a vet starter. Train the rookie up on a couple of packages where they can get a series in every now and then. Get them used to the speed of the game, while still having them spend most of their time watching and learning how to be a pro.

Once the rookie starts to catch on, you can begin to think about a larger role.

I like that stategy. If this was done with Clausen instead him being thrown to the wolves he might be a better QB. Not sure if hes got the David Carr syndrome now but we can still start things over with Cam

[Jerry]

I'm not really worried about the lockout situation affecting our future rookie qb getting a playbook. Newton, Gabbert, and Mallet already have it. Lol

Yup, they do but only Gabbert can understand it.

Poor Clausen getting dissed because he had a hard

time his 1st rookie year. Look at what we had around

him. Not much. Even the great "Peyton Manning" had

a lousy losing rookie year. Give Clausen a break and get

some better players around him. Let him have another year

at least. Lets get in some players to replace Julius.

[CRA]

Yup, they do but only Gabbert can understand it.

Poor Clausen getting dissed because he had a hard

time his 1st rookie year. Look at what we had around

him. Not much. Even the great "Peyton Manning" had

a lousy losing rookie year. Give Clausen a break and get

some better players around him. Let him have another year

at least. Lets get in some players to replace Julius.

Peyton Manning didn't have a lousy rookie year. He showed great promise as a rookie.

The Colts record and the Panthers record has little to do with how Peyton or Clausen's rookie performance is viewed. Peyton showed some great stuff as a rookie.....Clausen showed that he should go ahead and start his HS coaching career.

[panthers55]

On NFL Sirius radio Tim and Pat were discussing what the quarterbacks were given and it wasn't a playbook at all. It was a modified game plan. They were to study and be ready to execute it and answer questions about it. Pat said that they might ask them about the plan or might ask them everything but what is on the plan. That way they see who can adjust in game situations and who will be able to adapt from week to week.

[micnificent28]

On NFL Sirius radio Tim and Pat were discussing what the quarterbacks were given and it wasn't a playbook at all. It was a modified game plan. They were to study and be ready to execute it and answer questions about it. Pat said that they might ask them about the plan or might ask them everything but what is on the plan. That way they see who can adjust in game situations and who will be able to adapt from week to week.

It's funny jeff Saturday was talking about this on NFL network. Yesterday. He said it's not a problem because someone will get them a playbook. It migh be a friend or old highschool coach, but they will have it. Won't be a issue just the way the NFL works.

[monstercat]

I think there are two elements that a QB has to master before they can really perform efficiently at the NFL level. One is obviously the playbook, and the other is the speed of the game compared to college. A rookie QB has to work through both of these at once, possibly while he's still physically maturing, while sitting for a year lets you get a sense of the speed while you learn the playbook. There's an obvious advantage there.

In Bradford's case, there have been several articles mentioning how they changed the playbook to protect him, and had him on a three second timer before he was instructed to get rid of the ball. That helped a lot as far as adjusting to the speed of the game. In Manning's case, he was NFL ready in high school...

That makes a lot of sense, and there is no reason why the Panthers can't modify their playbook for a rookie or a QB who has the ability to run. It makes no sense to force a rookie to run the same stuff that you would expect from a 5th year veteran.

Anyway, I think too many people believe in the "one size fits all" apporach. Everbody has different strengths and weaknesses and everybody learns at their own pace. The object is to take advantage of your QB's strengths while allowing him time to work on his weaknesses. If that means modifying the playbook or letting a guy sit for a while, then so be it. What matters is the long term outcome, not the short term fix.

[Mr. Scot]

On NFL Sirius radio Tim and Pat were discussing what the quarterbacks were given and it wasn't a playbook at all. It was a modified game plan. They were to study and be ready to execute it and answer questions about it. Pat said that they might ask them about the plan or might ask them everything but what is on the plan. That way they see who can adjust in game situations and who will be able to adapt from week to week.

That's smart.