The Carolina Panthers' #1 Selection

[davos]

So we can't even get people to agree on being open about one of the more unpredictable NFL drafts in recent memory? wow...

[davos]

That's all well and good, but we still have the same GM... who arguably has a huge hand in draft strategy. And Fox claimed that he had little imput on personnel.

So you trust what John Fox says in Denver but not our current staff...ok ;)

[CRA]

Considering we have a completely new staff & along with our GM who has an above avg draft track record imo, I am fine with trusting them. You choose to distrust them and remain mad about last year's draft, I remain chill about whatever may happen because I know there's no way in hell I know what's gonna go down.

Just because Fox's lame duck throw away season didn't create stars outta every draft pick doesn't mean they can't still do well.

I think Hurney has done a questionable job lately. 09 and 10, Carolina has not done a very good job imo.

Outside of the 1st round, Hurney overall hasn't impressed.

[davos]

I think Hurney has done a questionable job lately. 09 and 10, Carolina has not done a very good job imo.

Yeah, I'll concede that point...but I think its because he's gotten trade friendly during drafts due to his success with the Stewart/Otah in the 1st round.

This year, its not likely because we can't trade next year's picks and additionally we are in position to gain picks if we trade the number 1 rather than losing any.

I believe we can have a 01, 02, or 06 type draft again or possibly even better. Wishful thinking: yes; unattainable: nope

[Lout]

I think Hurney was trying to save his friend's ass in John Fox.. which is why he kept mortaging our future for picks. He won't have the urge to trade future picks in this year's draft. Last year's draft was questionable, but we did find a potential star WR in Gettis at the end of the draft.. and anytime you come out of a draft with 2-3 starters, you did a very good job.

[Jase]

Let's also give Hurney a chance to draft without John "imsoconservativeidontdevelopyoungplayers" Fox. How was Hurney's last draft without Fox? :cool:

trading to nab armanti was hurney's baby.

:leaving:

[Zcustom]

trading to nab armanti was hurney's baby.

:leaving:

Everybody shits the bed at least once in their life right?

Right?......guys?

[davos]

I think Hurney was trying to save his friend's ass in John Fox.. which is why he kept mortaging our future for picks. He won't have the urge to trade future picks in this year's draft. Last year's draft was questionable, but we did find a potential star WR in Gettis at the end of the draft.. and anytime you come out of a draft with 2-3 starters, you did a very good job.

Excellent point and Hurney averages over 2 starters in his tenure per draft. Here's easily over 20 at the top of my head:

Gamble, David Gettis, Peppers, Will Witherspoon, DeAngelo Williams, Otah, Gross, Jonathan Stewart, Captain Munn, Sherrod Martin, Godfrey, LaFell, Dan Connor, Beason, Kalil, Charles Johnson, Marshall, Thomas Davis, James Anderson, King, T-Wharton, Bernadeu...Pretty impressive over a 9 year period for a GM

[Mr. Scot]

I'd be fine with Peterson or Dareus. You'd have to talk me into Fairley or Green.

Pretty much anyone else, I'll be chanting "I hope they're right".

[CRA]

Excellent point and Hurney averages over 2 starters in his tenure per draft. Here's easily over 20 at the top of my head:

Gamble, Gettis, Peppers, Dan Morgan, Kris Jenkins, Will Witherspoon, DeAngelo Williams, Otah, Gross, Jonathan Stewart, Captain Munn, Sherrod Martin, Godfrey, Dan Connor, Beason, Kalil, Charles Johnson, Marshall, Thomas Davis, James Anderson, King, Wharton, Smitty, Rucker (am I missing anyone?) Pretty impressive over a 9 year period for a GM

wasn't Seifert the GM when Rucker, Smitty, Morgan, Jenkins, were drafted?

[Zcustom]

wasn't Seifert the GM when Rucker, Smitty, Morgan, Jenkins, were drafted?

Nope, just Coach.

Hurney was GM then

Edit: Rucker was pre-hurney I think

[CRA]

Nope, just Coach.

Hurney was GM then

Edit: Rucker was pre-hurney I think

I thought Seifert was coach/GM his entire tenure? He gave up being GM his last year?

[davos]

I thought Seifert was coach/GM his entire tenure? He gave up being GM his last year?

Per Panthers.com he assumed control in 02...so Rucker, Smity, Jenkins & Morgan would be off the list

[CRA]

Per Panthers.com he assumed control in 02...so Rucker would be off the list (correct me if I'm missing anyone)

Smitty, Morgan, Jenkins, and Rucker were all drafted prior to 02.

They were drafted in 2001 and 1999. Seifert era.