"One of them has to go to Carolina at #1" Mayock on QBs

[grateflday]

Doubt anyone thought we'd accomplish much when we signed some guy named Delhomme either.

I was very happy with that signing. I thought Jake was a good pickup and wasnt very surprised by his success. I also for many years while he was here, was saying the Panthers needed to do something to bring in a younger QB to have ready to replace him. They obviously failed at that miserably.

I agree with the notion of drafting a franchise QB with a high pick in the first round.

I disagree with the notion that it has to be done this year, just because we have the #1 pick.

I'd rather take a guy who makes sense at say, #10, than a guy who's a reach at #1.

In here lies the great question :cool: Is Cam going to be a franchise QB?? If so then it doesnt make a difference if you draft him at #10 or #1, in my opinion. It not like you really want to be reaching at #10 either or really anywhere in round 1. The other major question is if you pass this year, its back to the unknown of where you end up in the draft next season, who is available, will they be a better option than Cam. (this, I know, is a debate in itself) and what might they have to give up to get into position to then draft they guy they want.

Personally for me, I would be more excited about the future of the Panthers going into next season with a Veteran, Clausen, and Cam then a Veteran, Clausen, and Pike/Moore/????. I also think drafting Cam this season, even at #1, is a better option than trying to get your franchise guy, who right now is a complete unknown, next year. But that is what makes this country great ---- we all dont have to agree :cool:

[Icege]

Ugh. And how long do you think it will take us to win a Superbowl that way?

I'm sorry to have to break this to a large majority of the fan base out there, but drafting a new QB every season until we win the Super Bowl isn't how the Super Bowl is won.

Ever cooked for a date before? You've never gone to the grocery store to buy some extra ingredients which, according to the Internet, will cause her to pull her vagina out from under her skirt and sling that bitch at you from across the table, only to find out that they're sold out? There's another batch coming next week as always, and there were some good ones last week that you picked up. Unfortunately, last week's purchase sucked and you can't determine whether or not it was because it hadn't ripened yet, you dumped it into a bowl of cereal as soon as you got home, or it was straight up ass.

The question here, is what do you do?

Do you get these ingredients that the Internet has told you to buy in order to get that rabid bearclaw, even though there's only a couple on the shelves this week? You've heard that one of these batches used to poison people, but then it was amazing for a year. Now it's about to be taken over by another company and you're not sure if it is going to make you detonate a chocolate grenade in your bowels or fire a batch of baby batter in her jowels.

While you're pondering this decision, you might be ignoring some minor details. Such as the hole in the wall at the head of your bed from when Andrew Luck decided to stay at Stanford and your lazy dog which is only good at trying to guard the house. To go along with that, your place smells like grandma farts and you haven't washed your bed sheets you since slept in the last wet spot four years ago.

I'm pretty sure by picking up things that can block the smell, cover the bed, clog the hole, and getting a dog that likes to run out and play catch might reward you with a better chance to get put into your date's kung fu love grip (we'll assume she's like Fiz and is a "passionate animal lover").

[CarolinaVeins]

I'm sorry to have to break this to a large majority of the fan base out there, but drafting a new QB every season until we win the Super Bowl isn't how the Super Bowl is won.

Ever cooked for a date before? You've never gone to the grocery store to buy some extra ingredients which, according to the Internet, will cause her to pull her vagina out from under her skirt and sling that bitch at you from across the table, only to find out that they're sold out? There's another batch coming next week as always, and there were some good ones last week that you picked up. Unfortunately, last week's purchase sucked and you can't determine whether or not it was because it hadn't ripened yet, you dumped it into a bowl of cereal as soon as you got home, or it was straight up ass.

The question here, is what do you do?

Do you get these ingredients that the Internet has told you to buy in order to get that rabid bearclaw, even though there's only a couple on the shelves this week? You've heard that one of these batches used to poison people, but then it was amazing for a year. Now it's about to be taken over by another company and you're not sure if it is going to make you detonate a chocolate grenade in your bowels or fire a batch of baby batter in her jowels.

While you're pondering this decision, you might be ignoring some minor details. Such as the hole in the wall at the head of your bed from when Andrew Luck decided to stay at Stanford and your lazy dog which is only good at trying to guard the house. To go along with that, your place smells like grandma farts and you haven't washed your bed sheets you since slept in the last wet spot four years ago.

I'm pretty sure by picking up things that can block the smell, cover the bed, clog the hole, and getting a dog that likes to run out and play catch might reward you with a better chance to get put into your date's kung fu love grip (we'll assume she's like Fiz and is a "passionate animal lover").

:confused:

[Mr. Scot]

I'm sorry to have to break this to a large majority of the fan base out there, but drafting a new QB every season until we win the Super Bowl isn't how the Super Bowl is won.

Ever cooked for a date before? You've never gone to the grocery store to buy some extra ingredients which, according to the Internet, will cause her to pull her vagina out from under her skirt and sling that bitch at you from across the table, only to find out that they're sold out? There's another batch coming next week as always, and there were some good ones last week that you picked up. Unfortunately, last week's purchase sucked and you can't determine whether or not it was because it hadn't ripened yet, you dumped it into a bowl of cereal as soon as you got home, or it was straight up ass.

The question here, is what do you do?

Do you get these ingredients that the Internet has told you to buy in order to get that rabid bearclaw, even though there's only a couple on the shelves this week? You've heard that one of these batches used to poison people, but then it was amazing for a year. Now it's about to be taken over by another company and you're not sure if it is going to make you detonate a chocolate grenade in your bowels or fire a batch of baby batter in her jowels.

While you're pondering this decision, you might be ignoring some minor details. Such as the hole in the wall at the head of your bed from when Andrew Luck decided to stay at Stanford and your lazy dog which is only good at trying to guard the house. To go along with that, your place smells like grandma farts and you haven't washed your bed sheets you since slept in the last wet spot four years ago.

I'm pretty sure by picking up things that can block the smell, cover the bed, clog the hole, and getting a dog that likes to run out and play catch might reward you with a better chance to get put into your date's kung fu love grip (we'll assume she's like Fiz and is a "passionate animal lover").

I didn't think metaphors could extend that far :lol:

[Icege]

I didn't think metaphors could extend that far :lol:

It was an honest effort to say the least :lol:

[monstercat]

All I know is that I've been told over and over by Mr. Scot and many others, that the Panthers never developed a QB. I don't really agree with that becuase most of these QB's were scrubs in the first place, but for argument's sake, lets say it's true.

OK, now we have a brand new and better (according to most Panther fans) coaching staff who has a golden opportunity to develop the most physically gifted, and maybe even the best athlete period, who ever put on a Panthers uniform, and you're all scared because he may not already be developed enough to start on day 1? This makes no sense to me. Where is it written in stone that a QB is not worth taking in the top 5 just because he needs a little time to develop?

[XClown1986]

Has anyone that is criticizing the idea of drafting a QB next year because we don't know where we will be picking, thought about the idea of doing whatever is possible to move up to get that guy if we aren't in position? Much like the Jets did for Sanchez or whatever. It's doable.

[Mr. Scot]

All I know is that I've been told over and over by Mr. Scot and many others, that the Panthers never developed a QB. I don't really agree with that becuase most of these QB's were scrubs in the first place, but for argument's sake, lets say it's true.

OK, now we have a brand new and better (according to most Panther fans) coaching staff who has a golden opportunity to develop the most physically gifted, and maybe even the best athlete period, who ever put on a Panthers uniform, and you're all scared because he may not already be developed enough to start on day 1? This makes no sense to me. Where is it written in stone that a QB is not worth taking in the top 5 just because he needs a little time to develop?

I don't recall ever using that first argument. The Panthers never having developed a QB before would have nothing to do with the current staff.

But as to taking projects with the #1 pick, no I wouldn't, especially not when there are guys who could help right now available.

Has anyone that is criticizing the idea of drafting a QB next year because we don't know where we will be picking, thought about the idea of doing whatever is possible to move up to get that guy if we aren't in position? Much like the Jets did for Sanchez or whatever. It's doable.

Indeed it is.

[monstercat]

Has anyone that is criticizing the idea of drafting a QB next year because we don't know where we will be picking, thought about the idea of doing whatever is possible to move up to get that guy if we aren't in position? Much like the Jets did for Sanchez or whatever. It's doable.

If you're thinking the Panthers can trade up to #1 for Luck next year, you might as well forget it unless you think the Panthers would be willing to part with the rest of their draft for one player.

[XClown1986]

If you're thinking the Panthers can trade up to #1 for Luck next year, you might as well forget it unless you think the Panthers would be willing to part with the rest of their draft for one player.

For a franchise QB of high caliber? I would.

[Mr. Scot]

If you're thinking the Panthers can trade up to #1 for Luck next year, you might as well forget it unless you think the Panthers would be willing to part with the rest of their draft for one player.

Who says Luck will be the only franchise QB available next year?

But as far as trading the entire draft, if we didn't have any other glaring needs, yeah I would. But it rarely takes the entire rest of the draft to do that.

(unless you're Mike Ditka)

[monstercat]

Who says Luck will be the only franchise QB available next year?

Who says any of next year's QB's are guaranteed to be better than Newton or Gabbert are 5 years from now? We can get a QB right now and start developing him, and we don't even have to worry about trading away picks or hoping one of these guys falls to us. Why make this more complicated than it needs to be?

[chef17]

Who says any of next year's QB's are guaranteed to be better than Newton or Gabbert are 5 years from now? We can get a QB right now and start developing him, and we don't even have to worry about trading away picks or hoping one of these guys falls to us. Why make this more complicated than it needs to be?

Who says Newton or Gabbert will be better than Moore, Pike, or Clausen are 5 years from now? It goes both ways.

[Marguide]

If you're thinking the Panthers can trade up to #1 for Luck next year, you might as well forget it unless you think the Panthers would be willing to part with the rest of their draft for one player.

For a franchise QB of high caliber? I would.

No player is worth that much. Anyone, no matter how good a prospect, can go south in a hurry due to injury or other reason.

Every pick is a risk, but compounding it by putting all your eggs in that one basket can kill you.