"One of them has to go to Carolina at #1" Mayock on QBs

[Mother Grabber]

The only way I'd be ok with a QB at #1 is if he's named Marcell Dareus.

[TheRealDeal]

My bad.. I was referring the stretch at the end of the season prior. As far as this past season, I wasnt impress at all. He did not look very good and nowhere near the "level" he was at that prior year and I think it had alot to do with the RB's werent putting up the kind of numbers they did.

Of course we can always try to factor in the negative effect of the rookie Wr's and playing calling, Fox, etc... etc.

Oh well and anyhoo.... we will know in a month which direction the Panthers go in. :cool:

Yep, if you look at his numbers WITH a good running game, they are stellar. He was the second best QB in the league when he had support.

People will look foolish for writing him off after this past season considering what he's shown he's capable of.

[grateflday]

Has anyone that is criticizing the idea of drafting a QB next year because we don't know where we will be picking, thought about the idea of doing whatever is possible to move up to get that guy if we aren't in position? Much like the Jets did for Sanchez or whatever. It's doable.

For those worried about setting the franchise back by drafting Cam.......... mortgaging the future by trading high draft picks to move up in a draft to pick a QB in the 1st round is even riskier.

[grateflday]

Yep, if you look at his numbers WITH a good running game, they are stellar. He was the second best QB in the league when he had support.

People will look foolish for writing him off after this past season considering what he's shown he's capable of.

Wasnt excately my point :rolleyes: I dont want a QB who only looks stellar when his RB's are up 200yrds a game.

["Ass" Dan]

Guys in my opinion I personally think we should announce Matt Moore the starter for 2011. He got a bad deal having to play with a disorganized team in 2010 and we should've given him a better team when he was in the spotlight.

[TheRealDeal]

Wasnt excately my point :rolleyes: I dont want a QB who only looks stellar when his RB's are up 200yrds a game.

TB: Moore 14/20 161 yds 8 YPA 1 Int (First start in more than a year)

Stew: 120 on 26 carries, Sutton: 38 on 6 Total: 158 on 32

Fox took the game out of Moore's hands and leaned heavily on the run

NE: Moore:15/30 197 yds 6.5 YPA 1 TD 0 Int

Williams: 82 on 13, Stew: 29 on 7 Total: 111 on 20

Cold, snowy day in NE where his accuracy was off early. Defense couldn't stop Welker

MIN: Moore: 21/33 299 yds 9 YPA 3 TD 0 Int

Stew: 109 on 25 Williams: 13 on 6 Total: 124 on 31

Moore's best game to this point and just an average day from the RBs

NYG: Moore: 15/20 (75%) 171 yds 8.5 YPA 3 TD 0 Int

Stew: 206 on 28, Hoover: 37 on 9 Total: 243 on 37

While Moore didn't have to do much, he completed a high percentage of his passes and got the ball in the endzone, even got Moose his lone TD of the year

NO: Moore: 14/23 162 yds 7 YPA 1 TD 0 Int

Stew: 125 on 16, Goodson: 44 on 14 Total: 169 on 30

Against NO backups, it was a very boring game called by Fox, but Moore still did his job and even managed to get Jarrett a TD

Summary for 5 games:

Moore: 79/126 (62%) 990 yds 7.9 YPA 8 TDs 1 Int

RBS: 805 on 150

Averages:

Moore: 15.8/25.2 (62%) 198 yds 7.9 YPA 1.6 TD .2 Int

RBs: 161 on 30

Note: Without the 243 as an outlier for the NYG game, our RBs only averaged 140.4 YPG which isn't anything crazy

Considering our team was built for the run and emphasized run heavy playcalling, those numbers aren't anything eye-popping.

In a few games Moore wasn't asked to do too much and he delivered like he should and when the running game had a mediocre performance, Moore had his best so I think it's unfair to say he only plays well when the running game is going for 200 yds.

His YPA and completion percentage were better than I had expected before doing the legwork.

I'm not sure there was much more he could do given the playcalling.

Your thoughts?

[koolkatluke]

Guys in my opinion I personally think we should announce Matt Moore the starter for 2011. He got a bad deal having to play with a disorganized team in 2010 and we should've given him a better team when he was in the spotlight.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Hell F no!!!!!!!

[TheRealDeal]

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Hell F no!!!!!!!

[frash.exe]

lol

140 yards/game is still around top 5 running production for nfl teams

no of course it is nothing extraordinary

[TheRealDeal]

lol

140 yards/game is still around top 5 running production for nfl teams

no of course it is nothing extraordinary

Yes but for our team that year, it was actually below average.

You don't have to consider how often we run the ball or the way our team was built, but you should.

[teeray]

Yes but for our team that year, it was actually below average.

You don't have to consider how often we run the ball or the way our team was built, but you should.

Is the way I talk about Cam the same as the way you talk about Matt Moore? If so I owe you an apology.

Other than the fact Matt Moore has already proven he is pooty as an NFL QB.

[TheRealDeal]

Other than the fact Matt Moore has already proven he is pooty as an NFL QB.

Other than the fact Matt Moore has already proven he is pooty as an NFL QB...

Usually when you start a sentence that way, you have something else to say to finish the sentence.

You making a judgment on Moore already is dumber than all your Cam arguments combined

[panthers55]

It is sad when you have to go back to 2009 in order to try and prove that a quarterback has a shot in the future. Please Hurney give us some better options.

[TheRealDeal]

2010 was a clusterfug for the whole team and you could argue that he was set up to fail