HGH testing coming in new CBA??...maybe

[Stumpy]

As a former bodybuilder and current powerlifter....I can tell you there is no way to test for HGH since the body produces it naturally. You cant have "elevated levels" of it like testosterone,either. HGH by itself without steroids is minimally effective anyway.. Since it cant be tested for....a majority of olympic participants use it.

Seems you are wrong...

Major League Baseball hopes to test minor leaguers for human growth hormone this year following the suspension of a British rugby player who admitted using the substance.

The United Kingdom Anti-Doping authority announced a two-year ban Monday for British rugby player Terry Newton, saying he was the first athlete suspended for using human growth hormone after testing positive.

WADA director general David Howman said, regarding Newton's positive test and subsequent ban. "It shows the people who say that HGH cannot be detected that it can. The sports people who said it can't be detected are fooling themselves."

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Some argue that the blood tests are ineffective because they can only detect if it has been taken in the past 48 hrs. But...

A team of scientists from the USA and Italy say they have developed a urine test that detects human growth hormone. The finding is a potential breakthrough in efforts to find a non-invasive way to screen for the performance-enhancing drug that is banned throughout the athletic world.

Dunlap said the test can detect HGH two weeks after an athlete has last used it. Current blood screening for HGH, set to be used again at the Beijing Olympics, can identify HGH 24-48 hours after an athlete's last use.

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[Fiz]

why in the name of god does anyone even care

is this like people pretend that baseball players in the 60s and 70s weren't hopped up on speed

[Stumpy]

there's also no "standard level" of HGH to test against.

This is dumb as hell.

The tests that they currently have are not designed to test the levels of HGH in ones system, they are made to distinguish between natural and synthetic HGH. So unless the players are actually harvesting HGH from other humans, then the tests will work fine.

[Fiz]

this also won't stop players from using it.

i know it's not an ESPN or USA Today article, but

http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/j.0021-9029.2006.00135.x/full

Performance-enhancing drug use by elite athletes is a modern sporting and social concern. We applied a long-overdue theoretical framework, perceptual deterrence, to predicting the banned drug-use decisions of 116 elite Australian footballers and soccer players. The strongest influence on athletes' hypothetical decisions to use drugs was their personal moral beliefs and health concerns, each of which also mediated the relationship between drug testing and athletes' decisions to use banned substances. Drug testing had little influence on athletes' imagined drug use decisions, although there are athletes for whom legal sanctions are necessary. The results have important implications for the way in which authorities fund and frame future anti-drug initiatives; particularly the relationship between drug testing and athletes' personal moral beliefs.

[rodeo]

also i almost killed myself three days ago doing back jerks and now im scared.

doesn't sound like the coaches are doing their job there. did you not have to take technique classes?

[Fiz]

also lol that usa today article is 3 years old

looks like someone doesn't understand how medical companies fish for funding

[Fiz]

doesn't sound like the coaches are doing their job there. did you not have to take technique classes?

we do.

i went to bail and for whatever reason my hand got stuck right after my left arm died mid lift. came down on my left shoulder and took me with it. I wrenched my back pretty awful but was lucky nothing else was hurt. it was my fault.

it was only 80 kilos and i'd just done 77 without a problem.

[Stumpy]

why in the name of god does anyone even care

is this like people pretend that baseball players in the 60s and 70s weren't hopped up on speed

Because when they do get caught, the go from

Shawne Merriman '06 (last off-season he was shooting up)

63 tkls 8 PD 17.0 sacks 4 FF 1 INT in 12 games

to...

Shawne Merriman '09 (last season he was healthy)

36 tkls 0 PD 4.0 sacks 0 FF 0 INT in 14 games

[Mr. Scot]

The tests that they currently have are not designed to test the levels of HGH in ones system, they are made to distinguish between natural and synthetic HGH. So unless the players are actually harvesting HGH from other humans, then the tests will work fine.

Ah. Thanks for clearing that up.

[Fiz]

Because when they do get caught, the go from

Shawne Merriman '06 (last off-season he was shooting up)

63 tkls 8 PD 17.0 sacks 4 FF 1 INT in 12 games

to...

Shawne Merriman '09 (last season he was healthy)

36 tkls 0 PD 4.0 sacks 0 FF 0 INT in 14 games

shawne merriman also blew out his knee against the Titans in 2007

that year (when in your words he had stopped "shooting up") he had 12.5 sacks with 68 combined tackles.

[Fiz]

seriously it is mind blowingly stupid to say merriman's career ended in 2008 because he stopped doing PEDs in 2006, especially after his 2007 production and the injury that allowed him to only play one game the following year.

Merriman is stupid because he didn't immediately get treatment for the injury, but the idea that whatever he tested positive for was the reasons he was so dominant is

dumb

as

heeeeeeeelllllllllll

[Stumpy]

also lol that usa today article is 3 years old

looks like someone doesn't understand how medical companies fish for funding

I didn't notice that, but you are right. However, this recent push by the NFL could mean that the study in the USA Today article has now moved past the vetting/testing phase and is ready for implementation.

EDIT: As of 4/13/10 Ceres Nano (the company developing the urine test) is ready to implement the first round of testing.

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[Stumpy]

seriously it is mind blowingly stupid to say merriman's career ended in 2008 because he stopped doing PEDs in 2006, especially after his 2007 production and the injury that allowed him to only play one game the following year.

My bad, I forgot about the knee. I was more using him as an example, there have been plenty of others throughout the sports world.

[Fiz]

well yeah there's david boston's hilarious body but it's impossible to say "well he wouldn't have done as well without this" in any meaningful fashion