So what day this week does peppers get the tag?

[nosuchthingasapanther]

Pep walks, Gross gets taged.

mark it down.

i'm starting to agree.

gross is part of the backbone of the bread and butter of this team (the run game).

peppers is a part of a defense that's slowly on the decline. the LB corp is now the strength of the defense, not the line.

no team is going to guarantee peppers the 17 million that a tag will get him. even tho he's clearly stated he doesn't want to play for the panthers...isn't it possible by letting peppers walk, carolina could bid and sign peppers for less money?

[Highlandfire]

So you are predicting that without a first round pick, from a peppers trade, that we won't be able to improve our pass rush. You sir, are awesome! :rant:

Seriously, stop with the doom and gloom crap. The off-season has barely begun.

Yes, I am saying no one in the 2nd round of this draft is going to generate any significant pass rush from the DE position. Hell even the first rounders are iffy at that.

[Highlandfire]

i'm starting to agree.

gross is part of the backbone of the bread and butter of this team (the run game).

peppers is a part of a defense that's slowly on the decline. the LB corp is now the strength of the defense, not the line.

no team is going to guarantee peppers the 17 million that a tag will get him. even tho he's clearly stated he doesn't want to play for the panthers...isn't it possible by letting peppers walk, carolina could bid and sign peppers for less money?

It is more than obvious he just wants out regardless of the amount of money offered. Something or someone has really pissed him off royally and he just wants out. Letting him walk is unacceptable. We don't have a first rounder and there just isnt' some stud that will be sitting around in the 2nd round for us to uncover like a gem to upgrade the passrush from the RDE spot.

I really think with this further weakening of the DL we are going to be a hell of a lot worse off this next year. we are built to run the ball and play good defense. With no passrush you can bet (just like in the Arizona game) we will be playing from behind more often than not, rendering the running game meaningless and putting it all on Jake again. Not a good picture IMHO

[nosuchthingasapanther]

It is more than obvious he just wants out regardless of the amount of money offered. Something or someone has really pissed him off royally and he just wants out. Letting him walk is unacceptable. We don't have a first rounder and there just isnt' some stud that will be sitting around in the 2nd round for us to uncover like a gem to upgrade the passrush from the RDE spot.

what people fail to see is that overall this is a very weak draft class. draft picks aren't going to be worth it unless it's in the top 10.

you're not going to fill his shoes with anyone in the upcoming draft. let him walk and sign a more effective vet (than the draft class) for less.

[Highlandfire]

what people fail to see is that overall this is a very weak draft class. draft picks aren't going to be worth it unless it's in the top 10.

you're not going to fill his shoes with anyone in the upcoming draft. let him walk and sign a more effective vet (than the draft class) for less.

Hey I am all for it but honestly what FA is out there that would upgrade this passrush from the RDE position?

[carpanfan96]

I got it trade peppers for suggs. end sarcasm.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

Hey I am all for it but honestly what FA is out there that would upgrade this passrush from the RDE position?

forget looking for an upgrade.

if peppers is considered to be one of the top DEs in the league, signing another top DE would be a lateral move.

the strength of the defense is not the line, and it hasn't been for several seasons. sign a decent veteran DE and utilize the ends already on the roster.

i would like to see johnson, taylor, brayton, and whoever rotated on a regular basis on either end.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

I got it trade peppers for suggs. end sarcasm.

let peppers walk and have money to sign suggs and a decent DT (babineaux, bernard, or even haye)...and still have change to play with.

rotate the line on a regular basis.

no sarcasm.

[carpanfan96]

now that gross has pretty much signed, Peppers gets his tag on Wednesday.

[Highlandfire]

now that gross has pretty much signed, Peppers gets his tag on Wednesday.

That would be friggin sweet. I am praying they get a trade in place by the 27th so we can move him off our cap the first day of free agency and be somewhat active this year.