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Jim Harbaugh on Cam Newton

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Rodgers had over 400 yards rushing last year. I don't consider that a running QB but not a pocket QB either. Just saying. :)

You can call him whatever you like but it doesn't make it true. Rodgers does his damage from inside the pocket, plain and simple. Sure every once in a while he can make a play with his legs but so can NEARLY every other QB, hell even Moore scrambled for a few first downs here and there and had some rollouts where he had nice completions but no one is throwing his name into this category because he doesn't benefit their argument.

He has mobility but he's a pocket passer

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You can call him whatever you like but it doesn't make it true. Rodgers does his damage from inside the pocket, plain and simple. Sure every once in a while he can make a play with his legs but so can NEARLY every other QB, hell even Moore scrambled for a few first downs here and there and had some rollouts where he had nice completions but no one is throwing his name into this category because he doesn't benefit their argument.

He has mobility but he's a pocket passer

Like Cam Newton??

of Cam Newton’s over his final six games against Ole Miss, Chattanooga, Georgia, Alabama, South Carolina and Oregon. What we found is that Newton only scrambled for yardage on a total of 15 of 169 pass snaps. The other 80 or so runs were called as run plays from the sidelines. The rate (just under 9%) at which Newton pulled down the ball and ran for yardage rather than continuing to try and pass the ball, was comparable with the rate at which Aaron Rodgers did the same (just under 8%) for the Green Bay Packers during the 2010 regular season, according to Pro Football Focus.

http://weblogs.sun-sentinel.com/sports/columnists/hyde/blog/2011/02/draft_winds_a_thorough_breakdo_1.html

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You aren't comparing similar data. For one you are only comparing 6 games for Newton and a whole season for Rodgers. Second, it does not include all of his designed runs, which is where he did a huge portion of damage.

He's nothing like Rodgers, stop grasping. He ran almost as much as he threw the ball. Rodgers isn't even close.

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You aren't comparing similar data. For one you are only comparing 6 games for Newton and a whole season for Rodgers. Second, it does not include all of his designed runs, which is where he did a huge portion of damage.

He's nothing like Rodgers, stop grasping. He ran almost as much as he threw the ball. Rodgers isn't even close.

Anyway... when Aaron has to scramble and make a play out of the pocket he can and so can Big Ben and Cam Newton if you don't have that ability you will struggle. Pressure those statues and the game is in the bag.

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You aren't comparing similar data. For one you are only comparing 6 games for Newton and a whole season for Rodgers. Second, it does not include all of his designed runs, which is where he did a huge portion of damage.

He's nothing like Rodgers, stop grasping. He ran almost as much as he threw the ball. Rodgers isn't even close.

Designed runs have nothing to do with if you are a pocket passer or not on pass plays. They are two separate categories.

You can't penalize a guy for being a running QB when his runs are by design. Especially when that QB passes for 3,000 yards and 30tds on his passing plays. You guys call him a run first QB but ignore his "film" when he performs a passing play.

They used the last 6 games bc at that point the other teams had ample film to game plan against him and by that point he likely was more familiar with the playbook he only had one year to completely learn.

Therefore, it was determined by the analysts that the last 6 games was a better representation of what Cam was doing than games where he was still learning and being studied by opposing coaches.

Plus it wasn't 6 random games they were 6 in succession at the end of the season for a reason.

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