Under NO circumstances should the Panthers tag Gross

[357wayz]

Dont waste the tag on Gross and risk pissing away a 1st and 2nd round pick for tagging and trading Peppers. Offer Gross a fair deal, but if he plays hardball, let him walk. Travelle Warton will step in and hold down the left side of the line perfectly. Hangartner, Bridges and Vincent will make the rotation on the line one of the best in the league even without Gross. Just find a capable reserve in training camp and the line will be fine.

[Black]

explain the first sentence please

[357wayz]

explain the first sentence please

Ok.......The tag= The franchise tag, every NFL team can designate one yearly.

Gross= Jordan Gross, the guy thats played on our offensive line for a couple of years now.

Piss away: slang term, meaning waste, discard foolishly

1st and 2nd round pick: every year, the league holds a draft, in which stand out college players have a chance at becoming employed by the NFL. There are 7 rounds total, and typically the best pick are in the 1st and 2nd round.

Peppers=Julius Peppers, pretty much the face of the Panthers franchise since 2002.

Hopefully this clarifies it some for you :confused:

[Black]

riiiiiight, i was talking more about you explaining how we risk losing 2 picks if we franchise him

[holycrikey]

riiiiiight, i was talking more about you explaining how we risk losing 2 picks if we franchise him

Because we won't be able to use the tag on Peppers, and thus, trade the guy for at least a 1st round pick (and maybe a 2nd/3rd, ala the Jared Allen deal.)

Either way is fine for me, honestly. Best case scenario is that we sign Gross finally, and then franchise and trade Peppers.

I don't think the Panthers necessarily need a 1st round pick this year. Would it be beneficial? Sure. But Gross knows the system, is as solid as you can want in an O-lineman. Therefore, he might very well be worth more than a 1st round pick.

I've gotta agree though. If a deal isn't struck by Thursday, say adios to Gross and go ahead and franchise Peppers. Might as well try and scoop up picks in the draft. The Panthers tend to draft pretty solid players in the first couple rounds.

[SuperMan]

Dont waste the tag on Gross and risk pissing away a 1st and 2nd round pick for tagging and trading Peppers. Offer Gross a fair deal, but if he plays hardball, let him walk. Travelle Warton will step in and hold down the left side of the line perfectly. Hangartner, Bridges and Vincent will make the rotation on the line one of the best in the league even without Gross. Just find a capable reserve in training camp and the line will be fine.

yes, ruin our o-line genius... why didn't i think of that? let a all pro LT walk and move an elite lg out of position... and put a center at lg...

[SKULL]

Has Hangartner signed yet ?

He is a F/A also

[KillerKat]

yes, ruin our o-line genius... why didn't i think of that? let a all pro LT walk and move an elite lg out of position... and put a center at lg...

Push comes to shove, we could put Wharton at LT and Bridges or Hangartner at LG. Could even put Vincent at LG since he's played there before and put Bridges at RG since he's never played LG. Hangartner has been playing Guard for us for a while and Wharton has played LT before if you haven't been paying attention.

Why franchise Gross and let Pep go with no compensation? That would be one of the worst moves in the Fox era, if not THE worst. We HAVE to franchise Pep no matter what to get picks and/or an extra player out of a trade.

So the best way to go about this is franchise Pep, then give Gross the best offer we can come up with. He'll either sign it or not.

[SuperMan]

Push comes to shove, we could put Wharton at LT and Bridges or Hangartner at LG. Could even put Vincent at LG since he's played there before and put Bridges at RG since he's never played LG. Hangartner has been playing Guard for us for a while if you haven't been paying attention.

Why franchise Gross and let Pep go with no compensation? That would be one of the worst moves in the Fox era, if not THE worst. We HAVE to franchise Pep no matter what to get picks and/or an extra player out of a trade.

So the best way to go about this is franchise Pep, then give Gross the best offer we can come up with. He'll either sign it or not.

thats stupid... you want to risk the o-line (our running game anyone) by completely shuffling it? Hangman isn't a very good G if you hadn't noticed..

If gross walks there is no way they shuffle it....

[KillerKat]

thats stupid... you want to risk the o-line (our running game anyone) by completely shuffling it? Hangman isn't a very good G if you hadn't noticed..

If gross walks there is no way they shuffle it....

Whats stupid is letting Pep go with no compesation. You're comfortable with a Johnson-Lews-Kemo-Brayton lineup? We need depth for DT and DE. We are very needy on our d-line more so than the o-line.

[top dawg]

:iamwithstupid:

[top dawg]

Push comes to shove, we could put Wharton at LT and Bridges or Hangartner at LG. Could even put Vincent at LG since he's played there before and put Bridges at RG since he's never played LG. Hangartner has been playing Guard for us for a while and Wharton has played LT before if you haven't been paying attention.

Why franchise Gross and let Pep go with no compensation? That would be one of the worst moves in the Fox era, if not THE worst. We HAVE to franchise Pep no matter what to get picks and/or an extra player out of a trade.

So the best way to go about this is franchise Pep, then give Gross the best offer we can come up with. He'll either sign it or not.

:iagree:

thats stupid... you want to risk the o-line (our running game anyone) by completely shuffling it? Hangman isn't a very good G if you hadn't noticed..

If gross walks there is no way they shuffle it....

:skep:

Whats stupid is letting Pep go with no compesation. You're comfortable with a Johnson-Lews-Kemo-Brayton lineup? We need depth for DT and DE. We are very needy on our d-line more so than the o-line.

:iamwithstupid:

[SuperMan]

Whats stupid is letting Pep go with no compesation. You're comfortable with a Johnson-Lews-Kemo-Brayton lineup? We need depth for DT and DE. We are very needy on our d-line more so than the o-line.

I'm all about franchising peppers if we franchise gross I'm going to throw a fit.....

i'm saying we wont shuffle the oline we will use omiyale or get a stopgap....

[tight lines]

If They cant sign Gross this year what make anyone think they can sign him next year? If Gross gets franchised it will be a big mistake.