Gil Brandt on Gabbert's pro day, not so sure Newton should go # 1 overall anymore...

[Guest Setfree1012]

Yeah, I was thinking the same thing... he was all about Cam Newton until today.

And the plot thickens.

[The Other Colbert]

Just look at the film:

Newton- 30 touchdowns and 7 interceptions, 2854 yards with a 66.1% completions percentage. [while against SEC defenses]

Gabbert- 16 touchdowns and 9 interceptions, 3186 yards with a 63.4% completion percentage. [every pass was in the shotgun]

If you look at the stats from 2010 QB ratings:

Newton- #2 with a 182.0 rating

Gabbert- #69 with a 127.0 rating

http://espn.go.com/college-football/statistics/player/_/stat/passing/sort/collegeQuarterbackRating

I don't understand why Gabbert is beloved by so many.

[TheRealDeal]

If you keep using college stats for NFL arguments, you'll never understand anything.

[CarolinaVeins]

True enough. Still, interesting that one of Gabbert's bigger detractors doesn't seem like he is quite as big a detractor as he was before today

Conspiracy?

[teeray]

If you keep using college stats for NFL arguments, you'll never understand anything.

TOOLS!!! Right ;)

[jarhead]

The so called experts are so far apart on even if Gabbert had a great Pro day.Mayock and others was estatic about his pro day.What the hell do these guys know.Some on this board seem more informed than the so called experts.

[teeray]

Gil Brandt is a smart guy and should not be disregarded. We just have to wait and see what our front office thinks.

[CarolinaVeins]

The so called experts are so far apart on even if Gabbert had a great Pro day.Mayock and others was estatic about his pro day.What the hell do these guys know.Some on this board seem more informed than the so called experts.

On top of that it wasnt televised like Cam's

[TheRealDeal]

TOOLS!!! Right ;)

Do you base your NFL projections on stats or something else?

[teeray]

All I'll say is that he struggled on the out routs. Which I would expect from a guy coming from his offense. But he overthrew one (which the receiver made a sweet grab), and two others he threw into the receiver's back pocket. Both pick sixes. One was caught and one was "dropped". All 3 not good throws. But he doesn't need to be perfect.

So it wasn't the greatest performance ever. He did good though so don't misconstrue what I am saying.

[teeray]

Do you base your NFL projections on stats or something else?

It is sort of a conglomerate of stuff. Stats are probably near the bottom of those but they do play some role in my evaluation.

But if they aren't the least important they are very close to it. he

I didn't like Clausen that much last year. I didn't think he would be as bad as he was though and I won't pretend I wasn't ecstatic to get him where we got him

I thought we got a pretty big steal there.

But his stats were amazing but I didn't like his release. I didn't get a good vibe from him in the Gruden thing. At least not compared to the other three guys. Most of his big passing plays came on plays where he held the ball too long, etc.

And I actually had him below The Golden Calf of Bristol. Only because of intangibles. Which have nothing to do with mechanics. I just can feel that guys respond to The Golden Calf of Bristol and he can win games off of pure will sometimes. And he would put the work in to be great. I never got that vibe from Clausen.

And I thought McCoy would be garbage and I am still not sold on him but he was definitely better than Clausen which I did not see coming.

So stats are about last in what I look at.

That was long winded answer sorry. :lol:

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

Gabbert > Newton

[teeray]

Gabbert > Newton

Then I hope we get him instead of Newton. Lol. I don't care I am just ready for a QB that can actually play.

[CarolinaCatBrigade]

Then I hope we get him instead of Newton. Lol. I don't care I am just ready for a QB that can actually play.

If we get ether QB, I just hope we let him learn on the sideline a little while, even if it's as early as the first couple of games. We can't just David Carr a new QB.