Running QBs in the NFL

[Sword]

coming out of high school, Cam Newton was considered a pocket passer who couldn't run..so let's not start labeling him so fast before he gets into the NFL.

[blackcatgrowl]

The only accurate comparisions of Newton to Roethlisberger is his size and the fact that he plays QB.

Roethlisberger is a mobile QB who uses his ability to extend the play and make the pass.

Newton is a running QB who makes one read and then takes off.

This has been refuted and disproven a number of times. I really hate this is the most common misconception about him.

[monstercat]

coming out of high school, Cam Newton was considered a pocket passer who couldn't run..so let's not start labeling him so fast before he gets into the NFL.

Yep, he was actually criticized for not running enough in HS. From what I understand, he didn't win the starting job at Auburn just because he could run either.

[Peppers90 NC]

Aaron Rodgers is just a running qb. Second leading rusher among qbs behind Vick who stays getting hurt and concussed like our rbs do. A running qb just won the Super Bowl.

AR a running qb huh? He has proven himself to be an elite passing QB, with Manning and Brady. He has the ability to run. He is not a running QB. Go watch games instead of reading the stat book.

[capfolly]

I'm not as well informed about newton as alot of you guys. what kind of offense did he play in JC before Auburn? was it also a heavy spread one as well?

[Stumpy]

I don't want Cam because he's a running QB. I think he can be a Roethlisberger type mobile passer...

...Aaron Rodgers is also very mobile, but is a throw-first guy. I think Newton will probably be more of a runner early in his career, but as he matures as a passer will look to throw first.

Maybe Cam Newton is Aaron Rodgers 2.0 :)

My problem with the comparisons to Rodgers and Rapelisberger are that while all three do possess great mobility, Rodgers and Big Ben both have exceptional arms to go with it. The other thing that they both have is an elite ability to throw on the run, something that Cam has not yet shown. From what I have seen of Newton, he is either run or pass he didn't keep his eyes downfield.

McNabb is a good example of a QB who was a runner in college who adjusted and became a passer in the NFL. Culpepper as well, though his injury pretty much ended the good phase of his career.

McNabb is probably the best case scenario of a running QB in the NFL in recent memory. He has sustained a long career although he has had significant injury problems throughout it. I am not old enough to remember ow his arm compared to Newton's coming out of college though.

He is also ten times bigger and more able to sustain hits than Aaron Rodgers.

Running QBs of all shapes and sizes have come and gone in the NFL, virtually all have been injury prone. Also Rodgers' and many others injuries have been concussions, muscle mass doesn't protect you from those.

Am I missing something. You did you analysis off of 13 games played. The win percentage is @54%.

That would be 10 wins per season with occasional 9 win seasons or 11 win seasons.

No, the analysis was off of a full 16 game season. 13 is the average number of games played in a season and 54% is the overall winning percentage of running QBs. 13 games times 54% = 6.8, so a running QB will give you about 7 wins a season and be on the bench for 3 games.

FYI 54% of a 16 game season would be 8 or 9 not 9 to 11.

I'll take a few missed games in exchange for the Super Bowl ring he just won...

1) Refer to the top of this post.

2) How many others on the list have won Super Bowls?

3) Ask Trent Green how quickly a couple concussions can turn into retirement.

[Seamonk]

People forget that the QB Position is a spectrum.

there's the

Run Majority QB(Option) -> Any Option Offense QB

Spread Running QB -> Cam Newton

Mobile Spread QB -> Blaine Gabbert

Running Pro QB -> ATL Mike Vick

Dual Threat Pro QB -> 2010 Mike Vick, Aaron Rodgers

Mobile Pro QB -> Steve Young, Josh Freeman, Ben Rapelisberger

Agile Pro QB -> Drew Brees, Young Brett Favre

The Statue -> Drew Bledsoe

annd there's probably more. The main deciding factor is how much they are inclined to run over how much they're called to run. What you want is somewhere between a Mobile QB and a Dual Threat QB out of Cam once he enters the league. Because of his offense in college, he's at the Spread Running QB level. A QB that is purely running lets his teammates down. A QB that is purely passing may not make enough plays to win. You want to be a QB that forces the defense to play you as well as the receivers.

[Jackofalltrades]

Rodgers is a MOBILE QB, but in no way is a running QB.

[ncmonzta]

[Stumpy]

Is that supposed to be a pro-Cam highlight video?

Probably about 2 out every 5 throws in that video were good throws. The ones that were good, were damn near perfect. But there were way too many balls that he either over threw or over lead his receiver.

That being said, watching that video definitely reminded me that he never did get too much help from his wide outs.

[Pox 08]

Not trying to veer off the topic much, but ever since those Cajun bastards won a SB, I'm starting to think there's a first time for everything. Newton may be one of the first running Qbs to revolutionize the NFL. He's as good a starting point as any. Who knows?

Whichever team drafts him though, needs to work their offense around him, and not the other way around. I guess that can be said about most of the Qbs in this draft though.

[chef17]

Not taking anything away from him cause he had some good throws, but most of those plays his WR was behind everybody. I would expect a lot tighter coverage in the NFL.

[teeray]

Rodgers is a MOBILE QB, but in no way is a running QB.

Yeah like Cam :p

[teeray]

Rodgers is a MOBILE QB, but in no way is a running QB.

400 yards rushing is also a bit more than a mobile QB.