All Signs Point to Newton as Panthers' #1

[Mr. Scot]

I love how you are the only logical, non-emotional person on here. THANK GOD FOR SCOT!! He is the only one emotionally detached enough to educate us stupid Nut Huggers that are throwing a Cam party 6 weeks before the draft.

Most of us have said that it isn't a lock but a serious consideration and Panthers are spending an awful lot of time with one player to this point. The only other guy that has had even a sniff of similar contact is PP7.

But we don't think it is a lock and none of us are having a party.

We just aren't so full of ourselves that we think we know better than the actual beat writers and local press.

We also don't pretend to be smarter of more emotionally detached than everyone else.

Hint: If you want people to think you're emotionally detached, writing personal stuff like this doesn't help your case.

And believe me, the notion of me having any emotional attachment to this is a laugh. You have no idea just how big of one :lol:

[ElkinPanthersFan]

Wow.. what to say about this thread.

I can understand people being excited about taking Newton with the #1 pick with the things he flashed at times at Auburn. Lordy, I never thought I'd see the day on this board when a person who has contributed countless contextually threads over the years being called out as being ignorant to the points. I agree to the fact that there has been some nasty mud throwing going on in this thread, but ultimately we are all Panther fans.

While some might be annoying or agitating at times in terms of posting, people have the capability of bringing some excellent discussion to the board. I've seen some quality posting from Teeray outside of all the jpeg smokescreen pictures,lol, and Mr. Scot has countless threads where he has brought alot to this board. Hell, CRA and me use to go at it and now I enjoy reading some of his threads.

What I'm trying to get at in this post, both sides are over the top at times. I think there should have been a Newton forum or thread consolidation for both sides. The people that didn't want to see it all the time and those that enjoy discusing Cam. I'd hate to lose some posters with them becoming upset and frustrated. I don't think Hurney's decision is made and right now, its all apart of due diligence.

I hope we draft smart and can finally begin a turn around. Ascending to not just one but multiple titles and finally get some recognition. Go Panthers..

[King Taharqa]

How long before the anti-Cam crowd throws their idol Jerry Richardson out to pasture? You know its coming. Everyone who praises Newt gets thrown under the bus eventually. Its Sorensons turn now. Itll be the same for JR. Self preservation has some of us sounding so desperate and delusional right now. It really does make you feel sad for some. I always knew some of us couldnt handle this. Now everybody locally and nationally is seeing it. Having this kind of spotlight on us is doin some good.

[teeray]

Actually, that's not really new. We already knew the team was going to meet with him privately, as they have - and will - with others. If it's split up, that's as likely logistics as anything else.

Objectively speaking, there's not as much reporting going on when it comes to scouting other guys because Newton is the hot topic.

There's not a "ton of evidence" but there is a "ton of discussion". You have to learn to know the difference.

I'd add that I haven't seen anyone call any of the journalists liars, and as far as smokescreens, try rereading what I said above (smokescreens don't apply until decisions are made).

The thought of taking Newton makes some guys happy. We get it. You don't like it when someone points out that it might not happen. We get that too.

I personally have no emotional connection either way. I just say what I think, and whatever happens I'll go with it.

Why do you think I am emotionally attached?? Because I think we should draft a QB. Is that really that illogical? I happen to think there are at least 3 really good QBs in this draft. Cam Newton has the most upside of the three so I prefer him. You think there are none.

That is fine but how does that make you so much less emotionally attached than everybody else??

LOL at you thinking you are the only one smart enough to have an opinion and not be emotionally unstable in their thinking. It is absurd and shows immense stupidity.

How many times have I said I also like Dareus or PP7 if we don't pick a QB?

Get over yourself. You ain't that fugging smart.

[riddel]

The Carolina Panthers will select Cam Newton with the first pick in the NFL draft, or are working hard to convince the football world they plan to.

Read more: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/03/15/2143820/all-signs-point-to-newton-as-panthers.html##ixzz1GmqLQ5NY

[Mr. Scot]

Why do you think I am emotionally attached?? Because I think we should draft a QB. Is that really that illogical? I happen to think there are at least 3 really good QBs in this draft. Cam Newton has the most upside of the three so I prefer him. You think there are none.

That is fine but how does that make you so much less emotionally attached than everybody else??

LOL at you thinking you are the only one smart enough to have an opinion and not be emotionally unstable in their thinking. It is absurd and shows immense stupidity.

How many times have I said I also like Dareus or PP7 if we don't pick a QB?

Get over yourself. You ain't that fugging smart.

I think you're emotionally attached because rather than argue the merits, you choose to attack me personally.

I'm definitely not the only poster on here who's detached and unemotional about the draft (and that includes people on both sides of the debate) but I can tell you that many of the ones who have been have gotten attacked this same way by people acting like they must have a personal agenda to believe the way they do.

Frankly, I wish I could get emotional about something this simple. Like I said before, if you only knew :rolleyes:

[blackcatgrowl]

I think you're emotionally attached because rather than argue the merits, you choose to attack me personally.

I'm definitely not the only poster on here who's detached and unemotional about the draft (and that includes people on both sides of the debate) but I can tell you that many of the ones who have been have gotten attacked this same way by people acting like they must have a personal agenda to believe the way they do.

Frankly, I wish I could get emotional about something this simple. Like I said before, if you only knew :rolleyes:

We get you don't want Cam, but despite your claims otherwise, anyone who shoots your arguments down against bringing in Newton, has eventually gotten a personal attack from you Mr. Scot.

You've done it to me, Proudiddy, Teeray, and of course, your friend KT.

If it was just talking about "football" reasons, we could have done without all the condecending BS, and insults. To be honest, you've lost a tremendous amount of my respect in all this.

[panthers55]

I find it very amusing when I read that a person has no emotional attachment in a topic here yet has a post count in the thousands or tens of thousands.

There are some folks on both side of the debate who are very emotional in this quarterback debate. Others who say they are not, are actually just as emotionally involved but not in the pick, but the debate.

In other words many of the posters here on both sides of the debate may not be as invested in who we pick as they are being right about any argument. it doesn't matter what the issue is about, they argue because they see the discussion as a test of their debating skills or their football knowledge.

Let me break it to you if you don't know, most folks on this board are emotionally invested in posting and the feedback they get from others or they wouldn't do it. Posters who say they don't care about what other's think are full of it. Otherwise why post pages of arguments or stories or analyses unless it is first to inform but also to receive accolades for their knowledge and ability to formulate a cogent argument.

Yeah I hear people say that doesn't matter but that isn't true. People who debate no matter the topic are emotionally invested in the process and outcome regardless of what they say. They may not call names or attack others but they are clearly just as emotionally invested but in a more controlled cerebral fashion.

How do I know? Because it describes me as well.

[Mr. Scot]

We get you don't want Cam, but despite your claims otherwise, anyone who shoots your arguments down against bringing in Newton, has eventually gotten a personal attack from you Mr. Scot.

You've done it to me, Proudiddy, Teeray, and of course, your friend KT.

If it was just talking about "football" reasons, we could have done without all the condecending BS, and insults. To be honest, you've lost a tremendous amount of my respect in all this.

As has been pointed out elsewhere, my distaste for drafting QB this year isn't limited to Newton, but that's the only one that gets me attacked.

Like I said above dude, you have no idea :rolleyes:

[iamcline]

But if he was so good why he want the number 1 guy from the start.

You mean like Newton? Newton has never been the #1 guy from the start. Usually a QB dominates the #1 pick, but this year there is no clear cut QB for #1...and that's saying something. Many mocks have Newton in the 6-10 range, so why people think we'd jump at #1 for him especially after a sub-par combine and typical Pro Day is beyond me.

[teeray]

I think you're emotionally attached because rather than argue the merits, you choose to attack me personally.

I'm definitely not the only poster on here who's detached and unemotional about the draft (and that includes people on both sides of the debate) but I can tell you that many of the ones who have been have gotten attacked this same way by people acting like they must have a personal agenda to believe the way they do.

Frankly, I wish I could get emotional about something this simple. Like I said before, if you only knew :rolleyes:

The only reason I single you out is because you are so self righteous about the whole thing. JOAT is anti QB and I haven't said one thing to him. MAV has had reservations about a QB and I have said nothing to him except having honest debate.

But what does bother me is when someone takes the position that the people who believe there are franchise QBs in this draft are your intellectual inferior and therefore driven solely by some love affair with Cam Newton that evaporates all logical reasoning. That is a incredibly self centered and idiotic position to take. Over inflating you own intellect is the root cause of close mindedness and ignorance.

You called me a troll who doesn't even care about the Panthers. I am just a blind follower of Cam Newton and if we don't pick him I will move on to the team that does. Yet you challenge me and others on personal attacks?? It would be funny if it weren't so pitiful.

And if I only knew what?? I wouldn't know unless you told me so what do I need to know?? Please tell me so I will know my place and refrain from challenging you in the future.

But until you let me know I guess I won't know and continue to call you out on your hypocrisy.

If I only knew.

[panthers55]

You mean like Newton? Newton has never been the #1 guy from the start. Usually a QB dominates the #1 pick, but this year there is no clear cut QB for #1...and that's saying something. Many mocks have Newton in the 6-10 range, so why people think we'd jump at #1 for him especially after a sub-par combine and typical Pro Day is beyond me.

You know why. It is the same reason that the Giants selected Jason Pierre-Paul in the first round in 2010 given he had played very liitle football in college at linebacker. They looked at his athletic ability and attributes and envisioned what he could become with work.

Newton is the same. If you think he has already reached his ceiling you wouldn't pick him in the first 3 rounds no matter what. If you think that he has unlimited potential then you pick him number 1 given what you think he can be in a few years. The 6-10 range is based on him being a project. The number 1 pick is based on him being the face of the franchise and the quarterback for the next decade.

[Mr. Scot]

The only reason I single you out is because you are so self righteous about the whole thing. JOAT is anti QB and I haven't said one thing to him. MAV has had reservations about a QB and I have said nothing to him except having honest debate.

But what does bother me is when someone takes the position that the people who believe there are franchise QBs in this draft are your intellectual inferior and therefore driven solely by some love affair with Cam Newton that evaporates all logical reasoning. That is a incredibly self centered and idiotic position to take. Over inflating you own intellect is the root cause of close mindedness and ignorance.

You called me a troll who doesn't even care about the Panthers. I am just a blind follower of Cam Newton and if we don't pick him I will move on to the team that does. Yet you challenge me and others on personal attacks?? It would be funny if it weren't so pitiful.

And if I only knew what?? I wouldn't know unless you told me so what do I need to know?? Please tell me so I will know my place and refrain from challenging you in the future.

But until you let me know I guess I won't know and continue to call you out on your hypocrisy.

If I only knew.

Oy :nonod:

Again, you don't know.

[teeray]

Oy :nonod:

Again, you don't know.

So tell me. LOL.