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Jackofalltrades

By Jackofalltrades,
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mav1234 Grand Master

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Let me put it this way. Jimmy was one of the worst QB's I've seen. But if you just watch a couple of his games, he doesn't look good, but by no means does he look as bad as he did over the games he played. This is how it was with Skelton and Webb as well. I mean, they're rookies. However, none of those three guys did well enough to cause their clubs to believe they were the future.

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Marguide Newbie

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And if NE had taken Brady in the 2nd round, all the experts would have proclaimed it was the biggest reach in history. No, I don't think Newton is on the level of Brady, but that's not the point.

If the Bucs had the first pick the year they took Freeman, would that have been wrong? Or the Ravens with Joe Flacco?

It is easy to get hung up on the idea of value, but you cannot look at that alone.

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mav1234 Grand Master

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el oh el those are all clearly better than Jimmy's 3TD 9INT, 33 sack, 58 QB rating.

... Not by that much, dude. They're all bad. Webb's very raw, and may turn into something. He liked to dump off a lot but he could move with his legs, which is why he had no TDs through the air. He's not the answer there next year. Skelton was worse than Jimmy in terms of accuracy - he completed fewer than 50% of his passes - and though he had 2 TDs and 2 INTs in his 4 starts, he still looked miserably bad overall.

As to sacks, as bad as Jimmy was, some of those are the fault of the O-Line, too... or coaching. Who knows.

The end result of all this is nobody is going into next season building around any of these rookies and planning for them to start.

edit: as to the cap thing, that may be true, but that hardly matters when it comes to drafting a QB...

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Stumpy Grand Master

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Who exactly makes up this list of "experts" and why should we put any stock into what they say?

Clearly you didn't read the article or you would have seen right at the very top,

Below are the average big board position of the top prospects in the 2011 NFL Draft. I looked at seven different big boards: Mel Kiper (ESPN), Todd McShay (ESPN), Rob Rang (CBS), Scott Wright (DraftCountdown.com), Tony Pauline (Sports Illustrated), Wes Bunting's (NFP) and Mike Mayock (NFL Network; just added).

Does this mean that this list is right? No. But it does mean that it is a composite average of the top 10 from people who are payed a lot of money to know a hell of a lot more about the draft and college prospects than anyone on this board.

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I can answer most questions about Dareus that anyone might have. I have inside connections within the U of A athletic dept. Dareus would be a fine, fine pick for Carolina; a Julius Peppers type pick. He has incredible speed for his size and knows the game at the pro level TODAY...no other pick in the top 5 has the pedigree, training, coaching Dareus had. He's a no risk player on the field and off.

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