Decertification

[replive]

If there is no NFL season this year, (accoring to a nfl article posted here) we will have the number one pick for next year draft.

do you have a link?

[Ja Rhule]

You know this is not close to reality, right?

Really? Explain?

[The Total Package]

I'm sorry De, you are not business partners, you are employees.

[blackcatgrowl]

fug Union, fug Brees and Payton... I hope they realize how many team staff, security personal, stadium staff they just put on the street and in this terrible economy. Some people barelly make it... These fug faces make ten millions a year and want more... Greedy bastards.

Hadn't thought of that before, but damn good point.

I wouldn't say I'm Pro-owner, but I'm definitely not pro-player in all this.

I've missed two years worth of raises. My health insurance deductable has tripled, and premium doubled. My property taxes have gone up.

Yes, the owners should have been more forthcoming with their financial data. Yes, it SOUNDS like they are cutting into player pay a good deal. But for the players to sit there and demand they continue to make the same money in the middle of the worst economy since the 30's, is incredibly narrowminded and selfish imho.

[OBXPantha]

If there is no NFL season this year, (accoring to a nfl article posted here) we will have the number one pick for next year draft.

I think this is just a rumor started on this message board. I have searched nfln and everywhere else I could find, and I can't find anything about it from anyone other than fans.

[blackcatgrowl]

For now that's just positioning to turn the public against the players.

Actually it's a little more than PR. It's a point of legal contention.

If the NFL sues NFLPA Inc. for contract negotiation abandonment, this is a very legitamate point to the debate, and COULD eventually put all the NFL players out of a job.

DeMaurice Smith is showing his true intentions now.

[ncbobcat]

Brees said they were not asking for more money. However, what I understand they WERE getting more, just in a few years, but would not give ANYTHING to pacify the owners to that point. The re-negotiated amounts in medation was a hoax, because it's clear that D. Smith wanted open books all along and anything short was a no-go.

What a freaking moron.

Even if the courts rule in favor of the players and the revenue split stays unchanged form current levels, does anyone here think the owners will re-offer all that "low-hanging fruit" the players just walked away from during the medation process? Hell no!

[ThPantherFan]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong; the players decertified and walked away form a very good deal, so does this mean their contracts are null and void? I think it would.

[riddel]

Why should any team show their financial stements... It's a privetly owned business... It's their right to keep it private.

Because they are claiming financial hardship and attempting to take $1 billion dollars out of the players pockets. They will now be required by the courts to provide ALL the financial information necessary to determine whether they were being greedy or really suffering from financial hardship. If they were not suffering from financail hardship, then they will be wide open for lawsuits. You can't claim financial hardship and then show a profit. It will show that the owners simply wanted more money.

We all lose, but in the end the courts will find in the players favor.

[Happy Panther]

But for the players to sit there and demand they continue to make the same money in the middle of the worst economy since the 30's, is incredibly narrowminded and selfish imho.

They did not demand this exactly

[blackcatgrowl]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong; the players decertified and walked away form a very good deal, so does this mean their contracts are null and void? I think it would.

That's going to be one of the NFL arguments in court.

[Evil Hurney]

Someone correct me if I'm wrong; the players decertified and walked away form a very good deal, so does this mean their contracts are null and void? I think it would.

I'm not sure. But my feeling is that those deals are only valid under a CBA. They should come back into effect if a new CBA is reached.

[Ja Rhule]

Its owner right to keep books shut... Even if he sues, he will not see those books. Moron... He should of spoke with an accountant first.

[jtnc]