Decertification

[sml1950]

The owners sure could have saved a ton of time,effort, and MONEY, if they'd only talked to Riddel before pursuing this obviously failed strategy. Or maybe he can just write the opinion for Doty before any arguments are made.

It's my understanding that very little adjudicated case law exists in this area, and therefore NOBODY can predict what the out come will be.

To me, the fact that the union can decertify temporarily and then recertify is ludicrous. If you act like a duck and quack like a duck, But say you are a horse for the next few months to avoid duck season before remorphing into a duck, you have lost the right to fly south for the winter.

The union is on it's high horse, thinking that Doty will consistently rule for their position. They had better beware that even winning outcomes are not always what you think they are. Remember, the union thought an uncapped year with no floor would be a windfall for them and now they would never allow that in the next CBA.

While both sides want to resolve without losing any games, the owners are the only ones liable to appeal decisions to higher courts, where a delay is more likely to cost a full season.

[Marguide]

To me, the fact that the union can decertify temporarily and then recertify is ludicrous. If you act like a duck and quack like a duck, but say you are a horse for the next few months to avoid duck season before remorphing into a duck, you have lost the right to fly south for the winter.

Love this analogy. It is spot on and hilarious.

[TheMaulClaw]

I think the government should step in. There is such a broad economic impact of this cba garbage. From the guys cleaning the stadium, to the local bars who depend on football to draw customers and people going to the games to make money. A lot of businesses are going down over this. Wild Wing, Buffalo Wild Wing, sports apparel stores, sports memorabilia. These players and owners are actually gonna take that guy with a crappy serving job at a sports bar with no insurance, and effectively cut his income in half (i'm on of these guys). If this carries over into the actual season, I'll be done with the NFL, and I'll support Mark Cuban, and college football.

If they're truly selfish enough to make innocent supportive people who work hard for a little extra cash just so they can buy a ticket in the nosebleeds lose their jobs or income over an extra million bucks, I'll sincerely hope they get stabbed in the stomach and bleed out over the course of 48 hrs.

[SPANKY]

Dude, the government...really? WOW, yeah all they do is make the dollar worthless and tell us how we should think. No thank's, no offense maulclaw, but I've said this before, those dipsh*t's could'nt change a tire. No way I'd trust them to sort this mess out.

[teeray]

Dude, the government...really? WOW, yeah all they do is make the dollar worthless and tell us how we should think. No thank's, no offense maulclaw, but I've said this before, those dipsh*t's could'nt change a tire. No way I'd trust them to sort this mess out.

The government wouldn't even have to do anything. Just have them say they are going to step in the way they did with the baseball drug testing.

Both sides would freak out and have something done by the end of the week.

I guarantee if Congress took interest and threatened to get involved this deal would get done in the bargaining room lickety split.

[SPANKY]

I hope it won't come to that teeray.

[teeray]

Me too.

[SPANKY]

I think Sheen would do a better job than DC could ever do. As long as he can harness the power of his tiger blood and not let it get the best of him. WINNING!

[riddel]

To me, the fact that the union can decertify temporarily and then recertify is ludicrous.

They can not recertify or become a union again for a number of years...I will look it up later....this happened in the 80s though and it took until the early 90s before they could recertify....

[Happy Panther]

6 months right?

[TheMaulClaw]

I'm just saying there is a lot more at stake then just the two respective parties pockets. They have too much of a sphere of influence when it comes to broad ranging economic impact. Just imagine what it would do to sports influenced business in a city like Green Bay or Buffalo. Detroit already looks like the next map to Fallout, now you're going to affect bottom line on lower income citizens just so you can flex your bargaining muscles. I hope they step on caca twice today, so it's on the bottom of both shoes.

[riddel]

6 months right?

6 months was how long they would have had to wait to decertify had the CBA expired.

It's definately a lot longer than 6 months to recertify.

[TheMaulClaw]

Hell if the NBA has a lockout too, why the hell go to a sports bar? An average chain sports bar has like 35 to 40 employees on its payroll. I couldn't find a figure for how many sports bars are in the country on the net, but lets just say 8000. I couldn't imagine hardly any of them keeping a full staff. An eighth of them probably shut down. I don't think the government would be willing to pick up the tab for that many people.

[mav1234]

6 months right?

This is what I've heard.