Decertification

[blackcatgrowl]

audited financial statements.

They can even give them to an independent 3rd party who can summarize and remove anything blatantly sensitive

This is exactly what they said they offered!!

[Ja Rhule]

This is exactly what they said they offered!!

I don't think they offered audited financial statements... That would Include everything... Income Statements, Balance Sheet, and Cash flow statement. Audited financial statement is a file about 100 pages thick of financial information.

[blackcatgrowl]

I don't think they offered audited financial statements... That would Include everything... Income Statements, Balance Sheet, and Cash flow statement. Audited financial statement is a file about 100 pages thick of financial information.

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfl/NFL_News/24465448#nfl/NFL_News/24465448

"If that's something that important to the union, we've made it clear we will work with them on it...

...We've offered to give them information we don't even give to our clubs."

[Ja Rhule]

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfl/NFL_News/24465448#nfl/NFL_News/24465448

He said financial data... He said nothing about audited financial data aka Income Statement, Balance Sheet, or Cash flow statement.

[mmmbeans]

man, panthers' forum is starting to look like the tenderbox.

[Ja Rhule]

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfl/NFL_News/24465448#nfl/NFL_News/24465448

"If that's something that important to the union, we've made it clear we will work with them on it...

...We've offered to give them information we don't even give to our clubs."

It don't mean anything... They can give em notes payables information or lease amotization schedule, maybe some worthless rations...

[Ja Rhule]

man, panthers' forum is starting to look like the tenderbox.

Haha, so true... All we need is Venom :driving:

[Happy Panther]

This is exactly what they said they offered!!

definitely not

[blackcatgrowl]

He said financial data... He said nothing about audited financial data aka Income Statement, Balance Sheet, or Cash flow statement.

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfl/NFL_News/24465448#nfl/NFL_News/24465448

"As I've said many times... the extent of their (NFLPA) independent audit rights... is unparalleled."

Now... people in the business, including some former players, are mystified why the NFLPA WALKED AWAY.

You choose what you want to believe... but so far, everything is pointing to the NFLPA as the party in negotiation abandonment here.

[blackcatgrowl]

definitely not

Definitely so. See my post above.

[MadHatter]

definitely not

You are fuging clueless.

The owners offered audited financial data.

The union wanted completed audited financial statements and tax returns....which they KNEW would NEVER be agreed to.

By the way....you don't want to get into an "audited financial data" arguement with me.....I do this for a living (I am a VP of Finance for a Fortune 500 Company). I have forgotten more about finance than you will ever know.

The NFLPA has never had the intention of negotiating a deal. They have worked towards these lawsuits since this has started.

[riddel]

How are the owners reducing the wage scale? Reallocation of revenue sharing does not equate to a pay cut. Players and agents still negotiate salaries with the individual teams. I haven't heard or read anything that suggests the league is going to cut anyone's pay.

The owners want $2 billion off the top of the $9 billion and then they want to split the $7 billion with the players, although the $7 billion split has never been presented. The players current receive 60% of $8 billion after the owners take $1 billion off the top....so by reducing the cut to $7 billion, the owners are taking money from the players and must show why.

[Ja Rhule]

http://sports.yahoo.com/video/player/nfl/NFL_News/24465448#nfl/NFL_News/24465448

"As I've said many times... the extent of their (NFLPA) independent audit rights... is unparalleled."

Now... people in the business, including some former players, are mystified why the NFLPA WALKED AWAY.

You choose what you want to believe... but so far, everything is pointing to the NFLPA as the party in negotiation abandonment here.

Do you know the extent of information was going to be provided to an independend auditor? My guess is very limited... NFL refused to provide NFLPA with audited financial statements for the last 10 years... Means, they refused to show their income statement, balance sheet, and cash flow statement.

[Ja Rhule]

You are fuging clueless.

The owners offered audited financial data.

The union wanted completed audited financial statements and tax returns....which they KNEW would NEVER be agreed to.

By the way....you don't want to get into an "audited financial data" arguement with me.....I do this for a living (I am a VP of Finance for a Fortune 500 Company). I have forgotten more about finance than you will ever know.

The NFLPA has never had the intention of negotiating a deal. They have worked towards these lawsuits since this has started.

Honestly, I don't think anyone knows what kind of financial data was provided... I've been reading news and forums for over a day and all I see is "financial data"... What financial data?