FYI on the Newton Debate

[blackcatgrowl]

Well... this whole thread is looking pointless now. Lockout inc.

[rayzor]

Simple question: Is it or is it not possible for an objective person to look at the facts of the situation and come to a conclusion that differs from yours (ie concluding that it would be better to pick someone other than Cam Newton)?

Yes or no?

yes, but you didn't answer mine.

here it is again so you don't have to bother with searching for it...

here's my question for all the anti-newton people...

with the success the panthers have had in the first round and the faith that is had in this new coaching staff, why wouldn't you want them to find him as top talent in this draft? why wouldn't you want them to see his talent and skill set and believe that they can coach him?

btw...i do think you are overlooking just how much the spread is being implemented into the pro game as well as the amount of time QBs are spending in the shotgun. both of those are bound to happen with 1) the league moving to a passing league and 2) the vast majority of talent is coming from teams that use the spread and taking most of their snaps from the shotgun. if you aren't open to adjusting how you play the game, you are limiting your field of prospects and will end up getting left in the dust.

[GoApps70]

WINNING

Like Charlie Sheen said. Sums it up.

[rico6]

lmfao

[Mr. Scot]

yes, but you didn't answer mine.

here it is again so you don't have to bother with searching for it...

TRD already answered it.

I do want them to find the top talent. I just don't believe it's Newton.

Can you accept that as my objective opinion without trying to assign an ulterior motive?

[Proudiddy]

lmfao

Yours is awesome as well rico, lol. Feel free to adopt mine if you want :lol:. Let's start a movement.

Hey, why all the sudden do I feel like if we want Cam drafted #1 we are like those victims of McCarthyism and the board is the HCUA.

Shh... they're coming, we can't congregate here!

[GoApps70]

I was higher on Newton but considering his performance throwing in front of NFL people and a few looks at some of his clips, I do not know that he would be any better than Clausen, and that is not saying much.

[rayzor]

TRD already answered it.

I do want them to find the top talent. I just don't believe it's Newton.

Can you accept that as my objective opinion without trying to assign an ulterior motive?

absolutely, though i think you made up your mind long ago about him and figured it wasn't worth giving a second look.

that's all i've been asking, but it appears that your eyes are already closed to the matter. only way you would support him was if the panthers picked him and you would grudgingly do it at that.

[rico6]

Yours is awesome as well rico, lol. Feel free to adopt mine if you want :lol:. Let's start a movement.

Hey, why all the sudden do I feel like if we want Cam drafted #1 we are like those victims of McCarthyism and the board is the HCUA.

Shh... they're coming, we can't congregate here!

lmfao.

Sure, why not.

[Mr. Scot]

absolutely, though i think you made up your mind long ago about him and figured it wasn't worth giving a second look.

that's all i've been asking, but it appears that your eyes are already closed to the matter. only way you would support him was if the panthers picked him and you would grudgingly do it at that.

All of that is pure assumption on your part.

I've watched Newton as much as I've watched others (watched the full workout video from the other day, actually) because I like to be informed. But my conclusions are different than yours, and that is a perfectly valid option.

If Newton is the pick, I'll accept him just like I've accepted other I disagreed with (most recently Clausen) and I've said that repeatedly. If you think otherwise, it's not based on my words, but your assumptions.

That's what I'm hoping people will stop doing.

[blackcatgrowl]

Hey... guys... you can stop... the union is decertifying. A Lockout is almost certain at this point.

So it doesn't matter anymore. If we draft Newton or don't, we've got a WHOLE other draft to get other players.

[Proudiddy]

Any good non-pigmented QBs available? Maybe they'll be good for football reasons, but I won't make any assumptions.

Did I do it right?

[rico6]

Hey... guys... you can stop... the union is decertifying. A Lockout is almost certain at this point.

So it doesn't matter anymore. If we draft Newton or don't, we've got a WHOLE other draft to get other players.

:(

This saddens me greatly.

[Murph]

Hey... guys... you can stop... the union is decertifying. A Lockout is almost certain at this point.

Judge allowing a one year extension of 2010 CBA still a possibility.