Newton’s pro day shows why he shoulf be No 1

[Mr. Scot]

Whatever works for you bro.

Yes we know. No one could possibly think badly of Newton unless they're racist. And anyone who disagrees with you is probably racist or "influenced" by racism because clearly there's no way anyone could conceivably disagree with your opinion unless there's something wrong with them.

Give it a rest :frown2:

[mav1234]

A better prospect like... oh... hmm... Manning? Manning was a great prospect!

:rolleyes:

No. If Newton had played for another year or two and continued to show improvement in his footwork and passing ability, he woulda been a better prospect whether he continued running a lot or not. Some may still not have wanted to take him depending on what happened in those years, but a lot of the wariness about Newton comes from the fact there is so little tape on him.

[Mr. Scot]

And now this: Kiper calls Newton ‘one-year wonder,’ like Akili Smith

Kiper says he’s spoken to people he “trusts” in the league, and came away feeling that Newton isn’t necessarily on Buffalo’s radar.

“(Ryan) Fitzpatrick, to me, was a very good quarterback,” Kiper insisted. Fitzpatrick, on his third NFL team at age 28, started 13 games last season and went 4-9.

Kiper predicted that one of this year’s elite quarterback prospects (Newton, Blaine Gabbert) would almost certainly be available for the Bills. But if Buffalo decided to pick between the two, Kiper wouldn’t expect it to be Newton. And that’s why he’s adjusted his latest mock draft.

“If you hit (on Newton), you could have a sensational quarterback for ten years,” Kiper acknowledged. “(But) if you miss, it sets you back three, four, five years.”

Kiper also assessed Newton’s limited college career, in which he went 14-0 as a starter at the FBS level and 25-1 overall:

“He was a one-year wonder. Akili Smith was a one-year wonder.”

Akili Smith, the No. 3 overall pick in 1999, is one of the biggest busts in draft history. A one-year starter at Oregon, Smith went on to start 17 games in the NFL, compiling a 3-14 record. His touchdown-to-interception ratio was 5:13. Smith finished his football career with the CFL’s Calgary Stampeders.

So what will the folks who talked about how smart Mel Kiper was say now? :lol:

[The Saltman]

And now this: Kiper calls Newton ‘one-year wonder,’ like Akili Smith

So what will the folks who talked about how smart Mel Kiper was say now? :lol:

Record: 4-12

Washington Redskins

Jimmy Clausen*, QB, Notre Dame

Clausen will gain momentum after the combine. Once he's fully recovered from his toe surgery, he'll show teams he can make the throws, but there's more to it. His intelligence, competitiveness and toughness will impress personnel people, and his stock will rise. Clausen has under-center experience and was as close to mistake-free as he could be given his surroundings this past season.

http://www.mariolosasso.com/mel-kiper-jimmy-clausen-jumps-inside-the-top

[teeray]

And now this: Kiper calls Newton ‘one-year wonder,’ like Akili Smith

So what will the folks who talked about how smart Mel Kiper was say now? :lol:

I guess you are backing off the fact you think teams will trade up for him then??

[teeray]

And now this: Kiper calls Newton ‘one-year wonder,’ like Akili Smith

So what will the folks who talked about how smart Mel Kiper was say now? :lol:

You told me just yesterday that Gil Brandt was a guy you should listen to. So what will the guys who said he was so smart say now :lol:

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/03/08/newtons-pro-day-shows-why-he-should-go-no-1/

[Mr. Scot]

I guess you are backing off the fact you think teams will trade up for him then??

I'll say it slowly.

Different...teams...rate...players...differently.

That's a fairly simple concept, in my opinion, but it seems to be completely over your head :nonod:

[teeray]

I'll say it slowly.

Different...teams...rate...players...differently.

That's a fairly simple concept, in my opinion, but it seems to be completely over your head :nonod:

:lol: It is just a weak, weak case you have made. Sure they do but it isn't usually as wildly apart as you make it seem. ESPECIALLY at the QB position.

I just don't see it. For a guy you have sworn up and down for three weeks was to risky and everyone knows it how could a team think so highly of him??

It makes no sense I am sorry. Your line of thinking is "Yeah he sucks. It is clear he is too risky. But we should talk good about him, bring him in for interviews, make public statements about our QB position, just in case one team wants this guy.

Answer me this then, why are we not doing the same thing with all the other guys in case someone falls in love with any of them? Why is this just relegated to Newton??

[panthers55]

I was listening to McShay on Sportscenter last night talkin about Newton's pro day. He indicated he still had issues mostly shifting his weight from his back to front foot which caused the ball to sail high. But what he did say was that after every poor throw he would come back the next throw and make an adjustment to correct it.

That gives me hope that his future is bright. He makes mistakes but works immediately to correct them. instead of looking for excuses he tries to fix the problem. That speaks volumes to me.

[mav1234]

:lol: It is just a weak, weak case you have made. Sure they do but it isn't usually as wildly apart as you make it seem. ESPECIALLY at the QB position.

Really? The Panthers had Clausen at least 30 places above where he was drafted, if not many, many more. There is a wide variance, even in QB.

[mav1234]

I was listening to McShay on Sportscenter last night talkin about Newton's pro day. He indicated he still had issues mostly shifting his weight from his back to front foot which caused the ball to sail high. But what he did say was that after every poor throw he would come back the next throw and make an adjustment to correct it.

That gives me hope that his future is bright. He makes mistakes but works immediately to correct them. instead of looking for excuses he tries to fix the problem. That speaks volumes to me.

I agree with that, which is why I came away from his Pro Day feeling a bit better, but not enough to change my opinion of taking him #1.

He is still very raw. He still missed on a huge percentage of his passes in shorts. Past #1s have looked much more polished, and even they were supposed to have an adjustment/transition period. That isn't to say Newton can never get there - and this is where our private workout with him before the draft will be huge - but right now, I just don't think he's a good fit for us.

I like Cam Newton, just not in our situation right now.

[teeray]

Really? The Panthers had Clausen at least 30 places above where he was drafted, if not many, many more. There is a wide variance, even in QB.

Sometimes they slide but rarely do you see a guy leap frog 2 or 3 other players who were universally rated higher at the Qb position. Sometimes a guy leap frogs one guy. Like The Golden Calf of Bristol did Clausen. But that was a good move.

Plus we never interviewed or worked Clausen out bc we never thought he would get to us. If we had maybe we would have seen what the other teams had seen and stayed away from him.

I get the point you are making and he has become polarizing to us and I assume the same can be said for the NFL personnel.

I guess my point is that if this guy has as many questions as some have suggested, how do you expect a team to give up the amount of picks it would take to trade up and get the guy.

[davos]

And now this: Kiper calls Newton ‘one-year wonder,’ like Akili Smith

So what will the folks who talked about how smart Mel Kiper was say now? :lol:

And how coincidental is it that the guy who tried to groom Akili is taking Cam under his arms.

[TheRealDeal]

I was listening to McShay on Sportscenter last night talkin about Newton's pro day. He indicated he still had issues mostly shifting his weight from his back to front foot which caused the ball to sail high.

McShay reading my posts again.