Owners are nothing but pigs at the trough

[riddel]

NFL owners do not own NFL teams in order to make a living. Owning an NFL team is a luxury and a priviledge. You are one of 32 people in the WORLD that own a team and it's a status thing, not a profit thing. They are still clearing anywhere from $15-$100 million a year depending on the owner and the team and this is a hobby for them. A HOBBY! It's not their only source of income. If an owner can't afford to make in as an owner, then sell the team. If you can't afford your car, house or boat you sell it. So, sell it owners....just sell it if you feel you aren't getting what you want out of owning an NFL team.

[thunderraiden]

NFL owners do not own NFL teams in order to make a living. Owning an NFL team is a luxury and a priviledge. You are one of 32 people in the WORLD that own a team and it's a status thing, not a profit thing. They are still clearing anywhere from $15-$100 million a year depending on the owner and the team and this is a hobby for them. A HOBBY! It's not their only source of income. If an owner can't afford to make in as an owner, then sell the team. If you can't afford your car, house or boat you sell it. So, sell it owners....just sell it if you feel you aren't getting what you want out of owning an NFL team.

Cool story bro.

The fact still remains that the same owners agreed to the past 60-40% CBA and we didn't hear anyone whining then.

[ncguy2184]

there all crooks

[Happy Panther]

no there not

[Happy Panther]

Whether or not the owners are right or wrong, public opinion seems to be swaying against the owners. at least based on the various articles recently blaming one side or the other.

Not that it matters or the owners care:

http://thyblackman.com/2011/02/21/nfl-contract-dispute-illustrates-classic-workers%E2%80%99-compensation-issues/

However, the players want half of the estimated $200 million in savings from a rookie’s cap put toward retired players and the other half toward veteran players whereas the owners, who are crying broke, want all of that money for themselves.

It should also be noted that money is not the main trigger for the players but one of many. Whereas I think everyone would agree that for the owners this is a pure money issue.

[Panthers128]

There is no good or bad or right or wrong in this argument. It'd be like saying a cars salesman is a bad person because he won't lower the price to an amount you want.

It's a business and if anything either side would be a moron not to try to get as much as they can.

Once you realize this much there's nothing to read into. Just wait for one side to give in.

[twylyght]

The players will be getting a paycut for working more. I don't see how that is "more"

It's not really extra insurance.

If your head starts swimming because you worked in a factory 5 years ago you will be covered through worker's compensation.

If your head starts swimming because you got the crap knocked out of you for a year in the NFL 5 years ago you are SOL and no insurer will touch you because of pre-existing conditions.

From everything I've read and heard the rookies will be taking a paycut. The marquee players will continue to do quite well. If the NFLPA is so righteous, they'd be putting their own money into the veterans' fund instead of demanding it all from the owners. From what I can tell, they don't even want more than their dues to go towards legacy veterans.

[Squirrel]

I like to compare it to Pilots and Airlines. Pilots are the face of a airline and have alot of responsibility. They should make a good salary but you also have passengers that dont want to pay alot for airline tickets. You have to balance paying the pilot what is fair with also keeping the passengers coming back. Then you have the CEO of the airline his job is to make sure the airline is profitable but also keeping the pilots happy. But they also need to look at upgrading the fleet and making sure the planes stay in the air. While the only thing the pilot has to worry about is what his flight is doing. So while yes the pilot needs a decent salary for his job the big thing is keeping the other planes in the air too and not just that one.

[twylyght]

Whether or not the owners are right or wrong, public opinion seems to be swaying against the owners. at least based on the various articles recently blaming one side or the other.

Not that it matters or the owners care:

http://thyblackman.com/2011/02/21/nfl-contract-dispute-illustrates-classic-workers%E2%80%99-compensation-issues/

It should also be noted that money is not the main trigger for the players but one of many. Whereas I think everyone would agree that for the owners this is a pure money issue.

Hearsay...

Even the NFL network talking heads (who are mostly former players) have not indicated that the owners have sought to take the rookie cuts for themselves. If anything, they want to reappropriate that money for their franchise guys.

[Happy Panther]

From everything I've read and heard the rookies will be taking a paycut. The marquee players will continue to do quite well. If the NFLPA is so righteous, they'd be putting their own money into the veterans' fund instead of demanding it all from the owners. From what I can tell, they don't even want more than their dues to go towards legacy veterans.

The NFLPA is trying to put their own money into the veteran's fund.

Think about it

[Happy Panther]

Hearsay...

Even the NFL network talking heads (who are mostly former players) have not indicated that the owners have sought to take the rookie cuts for themselves. If anything, they want to reappropriate that money for their franchise guys.

Did you just replace my hearsay from a substantiated article with hearsay you made up?

[Brooklyn Bully]

The players will be getting a paycut for working more. I don't see how that is "more"

It's not really extra insurance.

If your head starts swimming because you worked in a factory 5 years ago you will be covered through worker's compensation.

If your head starts swimming because you got the crap knocked out of you for a year in the NFL 5 years ago you are SOL and no insurer will touch you because of pre-existing conditions.

I'm talking about the guys who want to be covered their entire lives. If I hurt myself in a factory, I shouldn't still be able to be "taken care of" 20 years later by that company. They know the game is rough when they decide to suit up. There should be a grace period and then they should have to take care of themselves like every other red blooded American. Blame the insurance companies for that pre-existing crap.

I also fail to see how much more they're really going to play. Right now, the 18-game season is not a done deal. Once it does, that adds 8 quarters more that they'll play. But if you consider that they play 2-3 quarters the third preseason game, and 1-2 the second pre-season game anyway, they're really not playing THAT much more. Not to mention this isn't basketball or soccer. You aren't active an entire game. People take pay cuts, it's a part of life. Money is also a part of life and when you lose it, you get upset. Thus, here we are.

[Happy Panther]

I'm talking about the guys who want to be covered their entire lives. If I hurt myself in a factory, I shouldn't still be able to be "taken care of" 20 years later by that company.

Actually that is the way most insurance works. If you can show that the injury is a result of an event from 20 years ago then the insurance still applies and you can make a claim (state laws vary on the details).

No reason NFL players should be any different.

And I guess they aren't as jpniner pointed out

[SCP]

Mike Lupica had some harsh words towards the owners and J Richardson on The Sports Reporters this a.m. He said fans should without a doubt side with players. He even jabbed at JR for inventing the PSL concept.