Where do you think Rivera lies on the Fox/Coughlin discipline scale?

[frash.exe]

Two very opposite coaches. Coughlin coaches the Giants like a damn drill sergeant. He's not very player friendly (numerous players have had conflicts with him, including our own Jeremy Shockey). Coughlin is known for running tough training camps that suck the energy out of players so their unit is pretty much fatigued by december. While he is definitely a top 10 coach, and his philosophy has served him pretty well, he has a tendency to overkill.

Fox on the other hand, not really a hard ass coach. He breaks training camp a week early and wonders why the offense can't break 300 total yards by week 3. Training camp seems to go by much less intense relative to other teams' camps, and our team has looked very sloppy in the regular season. The locker room atmosphere he creates is very much benign and lax most of the time, but sometimes outspoken players criticize it openly (Jenkins, Buckner)

Enter Ron Rivera. A coach with military history. Of course we can expect more attention to detail and discipline the likes of which Fox has been incapable of providing, but Ron doesn't look like the kind of guy that will throw his hat at the ground and throw a conniption if a WR lines up wrong during a drill either. He definitely falls somewhere in the middle of these two mentalities. Just where do you think he lies is what i'm asking, vote on the poll. Poll options will be ordered from sweetest pies (Fox) to the most bitter (Coughlin)

[Udogg]

Let's see how he disciplines Steve Smith after he punches Claussen in training camp. :D

[Catalyst]

unsweetened cocoa powder pie

[nagai]

I want to vote for apple pie. Who could say no to apple pie?

On a serious note, I think he'll on the Coughlin end of the scale. Mid-high I think. I think I like it that way though. If he's a listener like he says he is, there's no problem in being a little tough.

[DC Amp]

Campari pie - Firm and to the point, no BS with an open ear.

[Brokenbad]

Coughlin has his players under control???

Every year those clowns are about to rip each others throats out.

Seems super discplined to me that one of his players threw his helmet in the crowd.

It is one thing to yell and be intimidating or look like an "angry possum" like he does, but to actually have control is another thing.

However, I believe Rivera is going to be a very tough coach.

[panthers55]

I think you have to look at the public versus private elements as well.

Fox would rip guys in private but not in public. Coughlin doesn't do it as much as he used to but he tended to rip guys in public which is why players used to hate him.

He also tended to discipline folks for the sake of discipline and had a 100 rules. Fox tended to have underlining principles and rules but was more flexible.

Rivera seems like a disciplinarian and closer to Coughlin than Fox on that aspect. However his players liked him and felt positive about him as a players coach. He is known to rip players when they come off the field but doesn't single them out in public or use the media to communicate.

Should be interesting to see what happens especially if the team struggles to win and the pressure uilds on him. Most guys show their true colors when things are going badly not when the team is winning.

Rivera seems big on accountability but given he played the game knows how it is to play the game for a Buddy Ryan who surely let you know how he felt.

[Happy Panther]

Two very opposite coaches. Coughlin coaches the Giants like a damn drill sergeant. He's not very player friendly (numerous players have had conflicts with him, including our own Jeremy Shockey). Coughlin is known for running tough training camps that suck the energy out of players so their unit is pretty much fatigued by december. While he is definitely a top 10 coach, and his philosophy has served him pretty well, he has a tendency to overkill.

This is not entirely true. While authoritarian when it comes to rule, Coughlin gets represented as being pretty fair and loyal to his players. Shanahan would be the better hyperbole...

"They both have somewhat militant styles," Thomas said of the head coaches. "But I feel like Coughlin, he doesn't put a hammer down if you make a mistake. Shanahan was real tough on guys. If you make a mistake or something happens, he just drills you about it.

"Coach Coughlin, he kind of lets it slide. He kind of lets it roll off because he knows you're going to come back and fix it."

Wow, a football player who considers Coughlin understanding, flexible, and maybe even a bit too soft.

"Firm, fair, honest, demanding," Coughlin said of his approach as he stood outside the winners' locker room. "I try to be consistent. No matter how difficult it goes, I try to maintain our course and keep people motivated, and we don't fluctuate back and forth. I try to keep it just the way it's presented to the players originally."

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nfl/columns/story?columnist=oconnor_ian&id=5889619

[Toker Smurf]

or look like an "angry possum" like he does, but to actually have control is another thing.

:rofl:

[csx]

The Panthers were known for having one of the most strenuous training camps under Fox. He may have broken camp a day or two early but never a week. No idea where that came from.

[JungleCat]

I hope Rivera is a "go for the throat" type of coach that isn't content with sitting on small leads in a game.

[KBRed]

Let's see how he disciplines Steve Smith after he punches Claussen in training camp. :D

Easily...by trading him to the Redskins.

[YourMomsLover]

Melon Pie and I didnt even know of such a thing!