Man I hope we trade down.

[MHS831]

Bears hosted the NFC championship game with a great defense and a terrible offense, ranked 30th I believe.

Our offense will be middle of the road at worst next season with the exact same roster we have this year, minus Clausen playing at all. Pair that with a top defense and we will be a force.

Good point. And they hit their ceiling too, with a pretty decent QB. If we stay the same and upgrade the position of QB, we are going to be OK. We have healed, rookies have a year of experience now, and all we need, IMO, is depth at OL.

Focus on Defense and we will have the ball more than the other team.

[MHS831]

I wish Moore had more personal drive to be good. That's the only thing I can think of for following up a fantastic last 5 games of 09 with the garbage he showed on the field in 2010. I was completely behind Moore as our starter going into 2010, and man did he let us down. His Giants game was almost up there with Jake's Eagles game for worst season openers. I'd be a little surprised for him to be on the team when the regular season starts.

I think both our QBs had success in their own ways and came into the season needing reality checks. Moore will not throw again until May, but when he comes back, I expect there to be a bit more fire. Clausen? A lot will be determined in year 2. So far, I am hearing the right stuff, but he has a long way to go.

[teeray]

Bears hosted the NFC championship game with a great defense and a terrible offense, ranked 30th I believe.

Our offense will be middle of the road at worst next season with the exact same roster we have this year, minus Clausen playing at all. Pair that with a top defense and we will be a force.

Yeah, but Minnesota, GB, and Chicago are spotted 2 wins every season since they get to play Detroit twice :p :p :p

Just a joke (not really).

[CRA]

I wish Moore had more personal drive to be good. That's the only thing I can think of for following up a fantastic last 5 games of 09 with the garbage he showed on the field in 2010. I was completely behind Moore as our starter going into 2010, and man did he let us down. His Giants game was almost up there with Jake's Eagles game for worst season openers. I'd be a little surprised for him to be on the team when the regular season starts.

that isn't entirely fair.....Moore's team had the lead at half. Jake's game was over at the half.

Bottom line is Moore simply didn't get the reps in 2010. He didn't get a shot. C

[TheRealDeal]

kinda depends... our offense can be middle of the road with moore if the running game isn't sucking. he's shown that he is a decent quarterback when he's got backup.

Palmer would instantly elevate the level of our offense though.

Agreed.

From what I hear, Moore isn't even a lock to be healthy by camp, even if we do re-sign him. His tender won't last once the CBA is worked out.

He's already started throwing and is ahead of schedule. Cam Newton right?

I wish Moore had more personal drive to be good. That's the only thing I can think of for following up a fantastic last 5 games of 09 with the garbage he showed on the field in 2010. I was completely behind Moore as our starter going into 2010, and man did he let us down. His Giants game was almost up there with Jake's Eagles game for worst season openers. I'd be a little surprised for him to be on the team when the regular season starts.

LOL really? Really? Hmm

Moore will not throw again until May, but when he comes back, I expect there to be a bit more fire.

He's already started throwing. FFS where do you people get your information? Moore has plenty of fire, he just doesn't show it in interviews. He's shown plenty of fire in plenty of football games.

Yeah, but Minnesota, GB, and Chicago are spotted 2 wins every season since they get to play Detroit twice :p :p :p

Just a joke (not really).

The Lions would have won that division of Stafford was healthy. Even though they don't get a lot of wins, they play hard and are much better than their record. But hey, I don't expect much knowledge out of you guys so I'll just say great attempt at a joke and I sincerely hope you continue contributing to threads!

that isn't entirely fair.....Moore's team had the lead at half. Jake's game was over at the half.

Bottom line is Moore simply didn't get the reps in 2010. He didn't get a shot. C

Dude had 3 bad quarters and people want to define his career by that when he had no help at all those games. He didn't even have a running game to fall back on, which is what our team was built on. If he had the same running game that he had at the end of last year or the end of this year, I think he'd have more success.

[teeray]

I don't expect much knowledge out of you guys so I'll just say great attempt at a joke and I sincerely hope you continue contributing to threads!

You are just mean

[TheRealDeal]

You are just mean

I'm sorry you feel that way and hope it doesn't interfere with your continual posting here at CarolinaHuddle.com

Even though we differ in opinions, I feel that you still contribute in your own way.

[paulSM]

I commend you for your efforts at being polite

[JawnyBlaze]

I did say almost as bad. 1 less interception, 1 more fumble by Moore. Yea, he had us leading at the half against a team that wasn't as good as the one Jake faced, but to throw it away with 2 or 3 interceptions IN THE RED ZONE is inexcusable. I didn't say it was as bad a game as Philly (or Arizona for that matter) but it was almost as bad.

He got his shot in game 1. Most of us faulted Fox for leaving Jake in so long after proving he didn't have it any more against Philly, he didn't make the same mistake this year. Moore proved he didn't have it any more against NY.

Moore did have 1 good game last year (SF), I'll give him that, but he had at least 3 games to show what he could do. He did well in 1. Say what you will, but in my opinion he doesn't have the drive to excel.

that isn't entirely fair.....Moore's team had the lead at half. Jake's game was over at the half.

Bottom line is Moore simply didn't get the reps in 2010. He didn't get a shot. C

[TheRealDeal]

Say what you will, but in my opinion he doesn't have the drive to excel.

That's crazy talk. It's not like he was a highly drafted player with millions to sit on. If anything he has more drive than others because he had to actually work for everything he's gotten. You have to be one of the dumbest people ever to base someone's work ethic off of 2 quarters of football. It's not like he had to scratch and fight his way from being undrafted to landing on a roster then climb Fox's impossible depth chart to actually get some starts and play well.

You are right though, he's probably just this naturally gifted QB who rests on his draft stock and doesn't put any work in but expects to be great :rolleyes:

[Cyberjag]

It wouldn't be the first time a professional athlete started mailing it in as soon as he got that first big contract.... (ok, now I'm just yanking your chain...)

[TheRealDeal]

It wouldn't be the first time a professional athlete started mailing it in as soon as he got that first big contract.... (ok, now I'm just yanking your chain...)

At least you are yanking my chain and not Clausen's di....nevermind.

[teeray]

at least you are yanking my chain and not clausen's di....nevermind.

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[JawnyBlaze]

That only works in theory. He has to be successful before you can say he actually worked for anything. He didn't climb Fox's depth chart at all, he got time when and only when the people ahead of him got injured.

And I'm not basing it on two quarters of football, I'm basing it off every minute he played last year. For him to be given the keys to the Cadillac and not only not improve, but regress as bad as he did screams no preparation or work ethic. I'm not saying I KNOW that's what the problem is, I said that is the only reason I could think of. Maybe at the end of '09 he got carried by the team and his real skill started showing in '10. Anything is possible and I don't know him or his motivations any more or any less than you do (assuming you aren't him posing as a fan on a message board, which I would believe the way you hug his nuts so hard..to use the current popular nomenclature).

That's crazy talk. It's not like he was a highly drafted player with millions to sit on. If anything he has more drive than others because he had to actually work for everything he's gotten. You have to be one of the dumbest people ever to base someone's work ethic off of 2 quarters of football. It's not like he had to scratch and fight his way from being undrafted to landing on a roster then climb Fox's impossible depth chart to actually get some starts and play well.

That's the problem, I don't think he expects to be great. I don't think he cares about being great.

You are right though, he's probably just this naturally gifted QB who rests on his draft stock and doesn't put any work in but expects to be great :rolleyes: