In defense of the owners

[twylyght]

don't use words you don't know the meaning of

Saying "you are wrong because x, y, and z.. PS you are a moron"

not ad hominem

Wow... I'll just let that little series of statements speak for themselves.

I done picking on retards for the night

[Jangler]

My nuts are tasty.

[Matt Moore]

Wow... I'll just let that little series of statements speak for themselves.

I done picking on retards for the night

K you go bed now rest brain

[Matt Moore]

My nuts are tasty.

he speaks from experience

[replive]

My nuts are tasty.

Sadly, this is the most intelligent post of the thread.

[Matt Moore]

Sadly, this is the most intelligent post of the thread.

thanks for contributing the shitty asides what would this place do without them

[replive]

thanks for contributing the pooty asides what would this place do without them

o no i'm criticizing your "debate" (which consists of not addressing the article at all and just arguing semantic nonsense), while this whole thing is in the wrong forum to begin with. wouldn't it be great if i stopped

[Matt Moore]

this is about the CBA so its in the right place

theres a new thread about the first draft pick made every day so gtfo of this one

[Matt Moore]

things to consider

The players aren't asking for more money. They deserve what they get, and they get it for an average of only three years. The Bidwills have owned the Cardinals for 79 years. The Rooneys have owned the Steelers for 78 years. Nine NFL owners inherited their teams. There's no easier path to permanent hot-and-cold running jets than your dad handing you an NFL team.

On the other hand, nobody hands NFL players anything but a chinstrap. With what we know about the dangers to brains now, would you exchange jobs with an NFL player?

This isn't baseball. These guys go to a job every day in which safety is Job 1,379.

The people asking for more money are the owners. They want $1 billion more out of the deal they have now.

They say they're losing money. But if you were losing money and were asking for $1 billion back, wouldn't you slap some proof down on the table? The owners are more secretive with their books than KFC is with its recipe.

[Davidson Deac II]

Personally, I don't see how any of us fans can take one side or the other. The two sides are arguing about how to split up the billions they make. Both sides are equally screwed up.

That being said, I hope the Players association decertifies, and the players take the owners to court. Then the court might force owners to open their books. Or the owners might compromise in order to avoid opening the books.

But in the end, I just hope we get football next year and I don't really care which side wins or loses.

[Rhys]

I hate this sh*t. It's such a farce.

Hence, billionaires are just that because they have contributed substantially to bringing that which is of value to those that want it. If it weren't the case, then they wouldn't have so much of what everyone else has given them.

'Billionaires are wealthy because they contributed value enough to society that is worth their billions.'

Then you back that up with a this piece of gold summation about why.

'People have what they have because they got it.'

Bullsh*t.

You live in a perfect world where people are compensated based on their value to society. You look at rich people and think to yourself they have their wealth because they contributed to society.

You cannot make broad generalizations like that. There are plenty of wealthy people who got their wealth by nefarious, but legal, means, or by being born into money, or getting lucky etc. It is possible for a person to work from nothing into wealth, but that is rare. Money begets money. In our country you can make a living moving money around to make more money.

Is JR a 'good' business man? Sure. One would have to say that based on his wealth. Does he deserve his money? Who the f*ck knows. Inventing Bojangles in my mind doesn't make a man deserve billions. It's a fugging chicken biscuit.

[Happy Panther]

But a tasty chicken biscuit for sure.

[Jangler]

I hate this sh*t. It's such a farce.

'Billionaires are wealthy because they contributed value enough to society that is worth their billions.'

Then you back that up with a this piece of gold summation about why.

'People have what they have because they got it.'

Bullsh*t.

You live in a perfect world where people are compensated based on their value to society. You look at rich people and think to yourself they have their wealth because they contributed to society.

You cannot make broad generalizations like that. There are plenty of wealthy people who got their wealth by nefarious, but legal, means, or by being born into money, or getting lucky etc. It is possible for a person to work from nothing into wealth, but that is rare. Money begets money. In our country you can make a living moving money around to make more money.

Is JR a 'good' business man? Sure. One would have to say that based on his wealth. Does he deserve his money? Who the f*ck knows. Inventing Bojangles in my mind doesn't make a man deserve billions. It's a fugging chicken biscuit.

Yeah he deserved it! He created a product people want. If nobody wanted it he would not be rich, simple.

[section543]

How do these people live?

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/news/story?id=6177574

Take back our league!!!

Why do people try to achieve fairness? There is no fairness in this world. If there was was, our Panthers wouldn't suck so often!

This country used to admire rich people and hope to be one someday- not extort money from them because it's not fair!