Drafting a QB #1 is a Smokescreen

[teeray]

I didn't. I formed my opinion based on the 4 points I made during the openning of the thread. I combined these points and came up with an opinion. None of the points are stand alone points, simply points that lead to my opinion.

My Matt Moore point seems to have blown up a bit seeing as he has value to other teams, to tendering him makes perfect sense, but it still seems a bit risky if the tender sticks and we are stuck with $3 million contract and we don't even intend to play the guy, so I still think it has some merit.

The ESPN and mock drafts are several opinions combined and for the most part NONE of those opinions point to us taking a QB with the #1 pick. You have to give those some merit. If professionals don't believe we will pull the trigger on a Qb at #1, then chances are, we won't.

Richardson being set on Luck is another big trigger to me, that we won't draft another Qb at #1. What Luck did was a slap in the face to Richardson. Picking another Qb that has less value than Luck with the #1 pick doesn't make sense, even if we need a Qb, although the media and draft anaylists say differently.

The sure pick senerio is probably the biggest trigger. There is not a sure pick at Qb. There are several sure picks at other positions. Why stretch at the #1 pick for a Qb? It's too risky.

That's why I believe we are showing that we are open to drafting a Qb number one and have a real need, but we have no intention of doing it. Buffalo, Cincy and Zona may get desperate and let us trade down.

Well the other three points were;

1.) ESPN didn't say we needed a QB in one of it's 1000 segments on the draft.

2) We stated we needed a franchise QB

3) Jerry said we weren't trading the pick

The only real reason you gave as evidence was the tender offer. As a matter of fact, it seems to be the only thing you provided to prove that our front office's comments about the QB position and the draft weren't sincere.

[riddel]

Well the other three points were;

1.) ESPN didn't say we needed a QB in one of it's 1000 segments on the draft.

2) We stated we needed a franchise QB

3) Jerry said we weren't trading the pick

The only real reason you gave as evidence was the tender offer. As a matter of fact, it seems to be the only thing you provided to prove that our front office's comments about the QB position and the draft weren't sincere.

JEEBUS!

Can I not have an opinion, even if I clearly state it is an opinion? Do I really need links and references to form an opinion?

How about this. In your opinion, do you believe the Panthers intend to draft a QB with the #1 pick? NO

Why? Well, for the following reasons _______________.

Now if you disagree with the reasons, then tell me why you believe the Panthers will select a Qb with the #1 pick. This is how a discussion works. One person tells their opinion and then others respond.

I never said, it has been reported, that the Panthers will not select a Qb overall.

[Mr. Scot]

Don't know that I'd call it a pure smokescreen. I think they'll legitimately consider all options.

But in the end, I don't think there's a QB worth taking at number one. If someone else does, it's definitely in our best interest not to show our cards.

[teeray]

JEEBUS!

Can I not have an opinion, even if I clearly state it is an opinion? Do I really need links and references to form an opinion?

How about this. In your opinion, do you believe the Panthers intend to draft a QB with the #1 pick? NO

Why? Well, for the following reasons _______________.

Now if you disagree with the reasons, then tell me why you believe the Panthers will select a Qb with the #1 pick. This is how a discussion works. One person tells their opinion and then others respond.

I never said, it has been reported, that the Panthers will not select a Qb overall.

Riddel I have said AT LEAST three times that you might very well be correct. So chill.

I just gave my reasons why it might not be a smoke screen. And I did give you those reasons. I focused on the Matt Moore tender bc that seemed to be the biggest piece of the puzzle.

I'm not sure if the Panthers will select a QB number 1. My belief is they haven't made that determination yet.

I have stated that I hope they do and that if they do I hope it is Cam. I don't want to rehash all the reasons I gave bc that would take too long.

So I guess my response is, I don't think at this point even the Panthers know what they are going to do. Therefore, I don't think at this time it is a smokescreen. But it is something to keep you eye on.

[mav1234]

The ESPN and mock drafts are several opinions combined and for the most part NONE of those opinions point to us taking a QB with the #1 pick. You have to give those some merit. If professionals don't believe we will pull the trigger on a Qb at #1, then chances are, we won't.

Well, the professionals also said that we may very well take a QB when they were on tape during/after the combine. So it is still a possibility. that being said, there is a good chance you are right in the end and we don't take a QB. Part of the talking up of Newton right now may be smokescreen. It may also be Rivera does like the guy. Finally, it's also that Rivera is asked a dozen questions about him every interview, so.

[Mr. Scot]

Worth remembering that Rivera doesn't make the final call.

No indication that he and Hurney aren't on the same page, mind you, but then how would we know?

[teeray]

Worth remembering that Rivera doesn't make the final call.

No indication that he and Hurney aren't on the same page, mind you, but then how would we know?

That's a good point.

Wasn't there something that was said about Rivera discussing the QB position specifically during the interview process.

Wonder what that entailed?

[OneBadassCat]

I think the fact that they tendered Moore shows they acknowledge how much of a wash last season was, just as they did Clausen. The Panthers know Moore the best and could very well believe there is still hope in his future here. Plus he will bring adequate competition, especially if he can't get our hands on a veteran like Palmer.

[Snake]

I dont even have to read the OPs comments to know there off base. Anything with "Smokescreen" in it is just down right dumb with the first pick.

[blackcatgrowl]

Yes, that's right. We're going to play a chess game of talking up Newton just to draft... wait for it...

A cornerback #1 overall!

Genius!

[jarhead]

Don't know that I'd call it a pure smokescreen. I think they'll legitimately consider all options.

But in the end, I don't think there's a QB worth taking at number one. If someone else does, it's definitely in our best interest not to show our cards.

It may not be a smokescreen but the media is sure setting it up for the Panthers to actually trade down in the draft if one of the teams buy into the hype.

[nosuchthingasapanther]

It may not be a smokescreen but the media is sure setting it up for the Panthers to actually trade down in the draft if one of the teams buy into the hype.

teams buy into their scouts, not media hype.

[panthers55]

I am usually wrong about these things but I really doubt we will get to trade down unless it is 2 or 3 spots at most. I could see Buffalo trading up if they want Newton but honestly they can stay where they are and take pretty much who they want. I wouldn't do it at all if I were Buffalo. And the cost to go more than 5 or 6 positions is totally prohibitive these days. Unless someone like Washington is stupid enough to pull the trigger and I doubt they would do it either. And honestly they could trade with Cincy or Buffalo for a lot less and still get either Newton or Gabbert if they want to do that.

[Razeyfingers]

Yes, that's right. We're going to play a chess game of talking up Newton just to draft... wait for it...

A cornerback #1 overall!

Genius!

Not sure you get it. The reason to play the angle in the first place is so you can trade down for. . . GENIUS! a cornerback.

and I would be fine with Peterson. He's a fahkin terror. As long as we build depth on the O line and fix the DT and QB spots.