Cam's bad day the WR's fault.

[Ricky Spanish]

gosh, you people that want to poo on newton are reaching now. I mean i am still on the fence with the kid but now you guys are just nitpicking.

come back when you have a legitimate reason as to why I should join you on your side of the fence please.

[mav1234]

Newton wasn't blaming the receivers, but I think that anyone who actually watched the clip would know that.

He didn't have a very good day but I doubt it hurt his stock and the interviews afterwards weren't that bad.

I am more concerned with how his team interviews went and the third person usage in interviews.

[g5jamz]

Missing a receiver here or there is for the scouts to judge...

This...

“My response [to Sport Illustrated‘s Peter King] was, I view myself as that due to the fact that I’m not only going to just be selling football cleats, I’m going to be selling lifestyle apparel — everything else,” he said. “I could have picked way more [different] words to express what I really wanted to say. I want to personally apologize to everybody who was offended about it.”

worries me more.

[Catalyst]

What about that worries you? I don't follow...

[g5jamz]

I guess I feel the kid should be focused on football...not becoming the next P-diddy.

[teeray]

Not quite sure what everybody is worked up over. He did about what I would have expected. The 11-20, or whatever it was, is really meaningless. The three balls he sailed were a product of getting comfortable with the footwork. I have said all along his footwork was his biggest issue mechanically.

Half the other participants under throw their go route yet they still get credit for a completion, while Cam threw three very good go routes that the receivers didn't catch and so he (of course) doesn't get credit for a completion. But they were good throws.

On the outs he struggled no doubt. He was 1-6. But one of those was a drop and the other was a good throw that the receiver fell down on.

The corner, hitch, and seam routes he did very well with.

Completions in these drill are unimportant.

My gut feel is he was trying a little to hard to show the high rpm's instead of just relaxing and putting the ball in there. He was putting too much on his throws and so when he was missing he was sailing it into the third row. That and of course he is still learning the timing aspect of 5 step drops.

His flaws are minor in nature and can be ironed out fairly quickly. I expect he will have a good pro day and then it is off to the interviews which are more important than anything at this point.

So I thought he did fine yesterday. He may not have helped himself but I don't think he hurt himself much either.

Everybody is praising Ponder today bc he went in and threw a bunch of softballs to his receivers. Yeah he completed them and ever body thinks that's great. But he was just lobbing them in there. Great for him and good press but I didn't like him as much as some other people did.

Mallett and Locker had really good days.

And TJ Yates had a pretty good day. He will get a shot a to be a back up somewhere.

[MadHatter]

Jack Of All Trades, please shut-up.

JOAT has forgotten more about football that you will ever know.

Move along.

[teeray]

I guess I feel the kid should be focused on football...not becoming the next P-diddy.

he was asked a question about endorsements. :confused::confused:

[Zod]

His stock has dropped big time. He will go mid to late first round.

[Catalyst]

I'll be shocked if he makes it past the Vikings. Hell, I'll be surprised if Buffalo passes on him. Everyone is harping too much on this one workout. He was always supposed to be a work in progress, a project with a ton of upside, but also one that will require some development before taking the field.

Now he just confirms what everyone already knew and his stock drops? Makes no sense to me.

[MadHatter]

I'll be shocked if he makes it past the Vikings. Hell, I'll be surprised if Buffalo passes on him. Everyone is harping too much on this one workout. He was always supposed to be a work in progress, a project with a ton of upside, but also one that will require some development before taking the field.

Now he just confirms what everyone already knew and his stock drops? Makes no sense to me.

he did not confirm what everyone already knew. He added a few things....like inconsistency and accuracy issues.

His strengths coming in were arm strength and touch.....well at least he still has arm strength now.

[g5jamz]

for what it's worth...

McShay says Newton hurt his stock more than helping. Keep in mind...this discussion (Panthers-centric) is about whether you take him with the number one overall.

This response...the defensiveness on a couple of other questions...and I just personally have issues. How does that compare to Mallett and others? Who cares...Mallett and the other QBs are in the 1st overall conversation.

[carpanfan96]

His stock has dropped big time. He will go mid to late first round.

Strange, most places aren't saying that... Hell it really didn't hurt him at all and if he shows improvement at his pro day....his stock goes up even more.

http://blogs.nfl.com/2011/02/27/mixed-reviews-for-newton-after-hyped-workout/?module=HP_cp2

Will Sunday’s workout alone really hurt Newton? It’s doubtful. His talent is unmistakable, but teams know what he isn’t when it comes to the development of his mechanics and passing game.

The bigger question for teams will be their conviction in knowing how hard Newton is willing to work to refine his game. Expect to see Newton work quite a bit from under center as teams scrutinize his footwork and mechanics at his pro day March

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/draft2011/columns/story?columnist=clayton_john&id=6164692

1. Newton is the real deal: Newton doesn't use much of his legs when he throws the football, but his arm is so naturally strong he can throw 50 to 60 yards with ease. There are no throws he can't make. He reminds me a lot of a young Steve McNair. Newton is 6-foot-5, 248 pounds and ran an official time of 4.59 seconds in his 40-yard dash Sunday. The team that drafts him can probably expect a completion percentage of 54 in his first year and plenty of big plays.

http://eye-on-football.blogs.cbssports.com/mcc/blogs/entry/22475988/27692302

The weird thing about the combine, as Mike Mayock pointed out, is that quarterbacks aren't being judged on whether or not they complete passes (which is what they're used to doing) but whether or not they can throw a pass to a particular spot (which is what they're not necessarily trained to do).

Therefore, while Newton clearly struggled passing the ball in a manner he's not entirely used to, it's still likely his draft stock won't slip that far.

Even some of the biggest misses won't sink his chances of being a top-five pick, because for all the criticism he'll take for needing development, there's equal praise about his ability to utilize his athletic prowess to overcome any problems.

So it's understandable to frustrated, but he probably shouldn't be too worried.

So the throwing drill for QB's is pointless and doesn't effect stock........ hmmmmmmm

The most important thing for Cam is what the teams thought of him in the Team interviews and can he show improvement between now and his pro day on March 8th.

[carpanfan96]

he did not confirm what everyone already knew. He added a few things....like inconsistency and accuracy issues.

His strengths coming in were arm strength and touch.....well at least he still has arm strength now.

Not completely true.... His Weaknesses from his draft profile....

http://www.nfl.com/combine/profiles/cam-newton?id=2495455#tabs:tab-analysis

Not proficient at going through his progressions or making NFL reads. Doesn't anticipate receivers getting open, must see them in a window. Inconsistent accuracy due to poor footwork and falling away to avoid a big hit. Despite athleticism, needs to improve his drop mechanics and the finer points of pocket mobility. Numerous off the field issues worth investigating