Cam's bad day the WR's fault.

[Snake]

So telling the truth is considered being an asshole.

[rico6]

In all seriousness, how do you do that if you actually play quarterback? I like that he acknowledges the error, but what exactly did he underestimate? The importance of working with receivers?

The timing. He states this himself.

In the combine it's no doubt that Cam is working at an NFL-esque speed in his throwing drills and what not. For his timing to be off is almost expected. Cam had a bad Combine, nobody with half a brain is denying this.

But let's not read too much into things like "derp derp Cam blames the recievers" it's annoying and ill-derived.

[monstercat]

I believe people have this misconception that Cam had good WR's at Auburn, but that's BS. Some of those long throws that looked like overthrows at the combine,would have been right on the Money to Smitty or Gettis.

[antame]

Cam reminds me of a taller stronger donavan mcnabb...bad accuracy but really good arm strength...and his media savy ness "infront of cameras" also reminds me of mcnabb alittle...still i wouldnt pick as #1....great potential but to damn raw

That I agree with.

Tell you one thing about Cam, he's putting it on the line out there with the media. He doesn't have to do what he's doing in that regard. Maybe that's a plus in terms of his courage of convictions, or maybe he's just a stupid prick, but that's notable to be. And from the interviews I've see, he's come across well.

[Mr. Scot]

...Mayock never seemed like he had a personal grudge against him. At all. Just because he didn't have him first didn't mean he had a personal grudge against him.

Unless you're completely unable to accept that maybe, just maybe, his objective evaluation might be different than yours.

That's something a lot of folks on here seem completely incapable of believing.

("he just can't be objective; he doesn't agree with me") :rolleye:

[TheRealDeal]

My butt. I don't believe for one second that you have actually watched all the film there is on Cam. If you did, then you would know for a fact that he improved as the season progressed. Mayock himself, who for all the world seemed like he just had a personal grudge against Cam, came away from his interview with a good impression of him, and said that his mechanical problems were easily fixable, and that he could be great, if he was willing to work hard.

I didn't watch "tape" but saw him plenty of times. He lacked footwork and accuracy just as much in the end of the season as he did in the beginning.

I don't know why you bring up the interview with Cam because I wasn't talking anything about that, just things I've seen in games which are still issues to this day.

The positive Newton threads always talked about how fast and quick he was, how his footwork wasn't an issue, and how he had amazing accuracy. Also mentioned things like winner, leader, likability, swag, etc which can't really be quantified by watching film.

The positive things you guys were saying about Cam were just as misleading as the title of this thread, which is very.

The things I said are that he isn't the runner people make him out to be because he is a very slow starter when he runs (shown by his 40 and how he was fastest in the last 10 yards), he needed to improve his accuracy, his footwork needs serious improvement, and he takes too long to shift his weight and begin his throws.

But I'm just a "hater" and none of those things are true, I just say them to bring him down for some personal agenda or whatever instead of getting an accurate analysis of a player :rolleyes:

[monstercat]

...Mayock never seemed like he had a personal grudge against him. At all. Just because he didn't have him first didn't mean he had a personal grudge against him.

Then how the hell do you explain him having Locker at #2? That makes no sense.

The funny thing is that Mayock seemed to change his tone after they had Cam talk to him face to face. He was much more complimentary towards Cam after the interview, than he was before the interview. Go figure.

[TheRealDeal]

I believe people have this misconception that Cam had good WR's at Auburn, but that's BS. Some of those long throws that looked like overthrows at the combine,would have been right on the Money to Smitty or Gettis.

How can you say something like that? That's like me saying that all of those throws today would have been picked off in the NFL

It's just crazy to say that, you don't know either way.

[antame]

I wouldn't be surprised at all if Newton's career had a similar arc to McNabb's.

[monstercat]

How can you say something like that? That's like me saying that all of those throws today would have been picked off in the NFL

It's just crazy to say that, you don't know either way.

Well if you have actually watched Cam play, then you should know damn well that #89 at Auburn isn't anywere close to the Panthers #89.

[TheRealDeal]

Well if you have actually watched Cam play, then you should know damn well that #89 at Auburn isn't anywere close to the Panthers #89.

That has nothing to do with the throws that he made today though :confused:

This is the type of stuff that is misleading that goes in the "Positive Newton" threads

[Catalyst]

This is bullsh**. I just watched the actual interview and he wasn't blaming anything on his receivers. He was simply saying that he wasn't familiar with them and their individual styles and that they had no timing together.

Look, I'm a Cam supporter, but I do have questions about the guy. I don't view him as a sure-fire anything; I just think we have to take a leap of faith here and go with the a player who has practically unlimited potential.

I do question his ability to adjust to the NFL, I do question some of the things in his background, I do have questions about "team Newton", but this? This is a non-issue and outright media slander in an attempt to continue to generate press on a guy who clearly is the talk of the NFL right now.

[rico6]

This is bullsh**. I just watched the actual interview and he wasn't blaming anything on his receivers. He was simply saying that he wasn't familiar with them and their individual styles and that they had no timing together.

Look, I'm a Cam supporter, but I do have questions about the guy. I don't view him as a sure-fire anything; I just think we have to take a leap of faith here and go with the a player who has practically unlimited potential.

I do question his ability to adjust to the NFL, I do question some of the things in his background, I do have questions about "team Newton", but this? This is a non-issue and outright media slander in an attempt to continue to generate press on a guy who clearly is the talk of the NFL right now.

Bro, look who created the thread.

His validity on anything is basically garbage.

[antame]

This is bullsh**. I just watched the actual interview and he wasn't blaming anything on his receivers. He was simply saying that he wasn't familiar with them and their individual styles and that they had no timing together.

Look, I'm a Cam supporter, but I do have questions about the guy. I don't view him as a sure-fire anything; I just think we have to take a leap of faith here and go with the a player who has practically unlimited potential.

I do question his ability to adjust to the NFL, I do question some of the things in his background, I do have questions about "team Newton", but this? This is a non-issue and outright media slander in an attempt to continue to generate press on a guy who clearly is the talk of the NFL right now.

Perfectly put.