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Gabbert is the top rated QB

MHS831

By MHS831,
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I can live with us not drafting Newton, but if we take Gabbert we're just asking to suck for at least the next 5 years. He's got all the on-field questions that Newton does without the limitless potential if the pick is a hit. Best case scenario for Gabbert is right around Carson Palmer level - after his knee injury.

And I have to say to all the anti-Newton folks here... I can't understand your logic here. Is it because you're afraid we'll end up with Jamarcus Russell? Granted, that's a scary thought, but I'm so tired of playing it safe. Conservative offense, conservative free agency, safe drafting... it's time to throw some caution to the wind and take the risk on a guy with as much potential as any QB in recent memory. Sure, he's not the same homerun prospect as Luck, but he's got more upside than Bradford, Stafford, Sanchez, AND Freeman.

I wonder if you guys would be so anti-QB if we were looking at Matt Stafford & Mark Sanchez as our options. Two more conventional options. I think the reason so many here are so anti-Newton is because they're scared of him. He's not "traditional" enough for them; not in the Manning mold, the typical drop-back passer.

Way I look at it, and the logic that finally pushed me over toward the "draft Cam" side, is this:

Worse Case Scenario: He's a bust like Russell and we lose four years on the experiment.

vs....

Best Case Scenario: He reaches his immense potential and becomes a Pro Bowler and one of the best and most exciting QB's in the NFL.

or...

Somewhere In Between: He's not a bust, but not a Pro Bowler either. Somewhere around Carson Palmer territory.

The question I asked myself was this: is the chance of the best case scenario worth the risk of the other two possibilities becoming a reality? My answer was yes, therefore I'm pro-Cam. I can only assume the anti-Newton folks would answer no to that question.

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It is weak, but I think the issues people have with Newton isn't that he's a "weak" prospect, but rather that he's such an unconventional and risky prospect. I think he has every bit as much talent as any recent 1st round QB (Stafford, Sanchez, Freeman, Bradford, The Golden Calf of Bristol) if not more depending on the player in question.

What's causing such a debate about Cam is both his past off-field issues and the fact that he's not your typical QB prospect and thus not viewed as the "sure thing" that guys lie Stafford and Bradford and Andrew Luck were/will be viewed as due to the fact that they're primarily pocket passers.

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I'm not looking for a franchise guy in FA, I'm looking someone who can maintain the position until we find the right guy. A QB who can manage games and let the RB's and Defense do their jobs.

There's simply no QB worth reaching for at 1 this year.

We very well could end up mired in mediocrity if we do this. And if you think Cam and Gabby have questions. Wait until you are picking 13-20. Then you end up with QB's that will have significantly higher questionable that Cam Newton.

I wish some of the "Haters" understand that the only reason this guy isn't a lock to be top 5 have nothing to do with his offense, mechanics, or skill projection.

It is simply his off the field stuff. He has the ability to be a number one overall pick.

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No, it's about transitioning to a real offense, can he be a leader, can he read defenses?

If he's such a lock why isn't he even the top QB on many boards, Mayock has him 3rd.

I'd rather roll the dice on a guy who's show he can do something at this level than spend 50 mil on a guy who's proven nothing. That includes Gabbert who's clean on character issues.

Luck was the consensus #1 pick, he's gone and what's left over isn't in the same league as him. You can't reach with the first pick, all 3 top QB's are reaches at 1 and probably in the top 5-10.

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No, it's about transitioning to a real offense, can he be a leader, can he read defenses?

If he's such a lock why isn't he even the top QB on many boards, Mayock has him 3rd.

I'd rather roll the dice on a guy who's show he can do something at this level than spend 50 mil on a guy who's proven nothing. That includes Gabbert who's clean on character issues.

Luck was the consensus #1 pick, he's gone and what's left over isn't in the same league as him. You can't reach with the first pick, all 3 top QB's are reaches at 1 and probably in the top 5-10.

There is nothing to suggest that Cam can't be a leader. He lead two different teams to national championships. There have been many, many reports from both of his last 2 stops from his teammates praising his work ethic and leadership skills. Hell, just watch half of Auburn's wins last year and you'll Cam providing that leadership because he had to bring his team from behind.

True, we don't know how good Cam can read defenses at the line, but that's because he wasn't asked to, not because he can't. Any body that says he can't is simply speculating and should be taken with a grain of salt.

In today's NFL you aren't going to win without a franchise quarterback. You also aren't going to find a quarterback that's proven ANYTHING in the NFL on the open market either. Unless you just happen to catch lightning in a bottle on an unknown free agent, your best bet is to take a chance on one of the top prospects when you have that chance.

Btw, all of these analyst (Kiper, McShay, and yes even Mayock) aren't working for NFL teams for a reason (and "because I like TV better" isn't one of those reasons.)

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