Brian Billick is a hater too

[panthers55]

Are you saying I'm infamous and not just famous among you simple minds?

Actually I was thinking you were a pain in the ass, but that night be just me. LOL

[TheRealDeal]

Actually I was thinking you were a pain in the ass, but that night be just me. LOL

Did you just LOL at your own joke?

[chef17]

So you didn't read those either huh?? You have a habit of chiming in on things you haven't even read. Yet you think you are relevant to every conversation. It is okay, that is what ignorant people do. Call themselves things like "the real deal" but do nothing but show infinite stupidity with nearly every post.

Until you actually read something before you start sh*tting out of your mouth about it, your opinions have no credibility. Doesn't mean you won't give it, because like I said that is what dense people who don't know any better do.

I am not a Cam lover anyway, I just feel that people who speak definitively as to how he will translate to the NFL, think he is a HUGE project, and/or generally just dismiss him, are people who have no idea what they are talking about. Like you for instance. Only NFL teams don't seem to be agreeing with you. So are they stupid or are you?

When I first got here you said he was a second round pick. I said He would be top ten before it was all said and done. I said he would be in the conversation for number 1 overall by the time April came around. You made fun of that assessment. You said something about him being the fourth best QB in this draft. You said his workout was a mistake. I said it was an attempt to generate buzz heading into the combine.

Well guess what, I have been dead on so far and you have been dead wrong on every front to this point.

Maybe if you STFU and listened (or actually read) what people are saying every once in a while you might actually learn something.

Or you can continue to be the ignorant ass you have always been that spouts out insults and broad statements then sit back and think you are clever.

You can do that. I will stick with being correct. Which to this point I have been.

Speaking of credibility, you said "I thought we judged people on championships." to support your agruement that Newton has the best college QB season. I asked if Dilfer was better than Marino since he won a championship and you never responded. Only using arguments that support you but ignoring others, doesn't that make you lose credibility?

[teeray]

Speaking of credibility, you said "I thought we judged people on championships." to support your agruement that Newton has the best college QB season. I asked if Dilfer was better than Marino since he won a championship and you never responded. Only using arguments that support you but ignoring others, doesn't that make you lose credibility?

I missed that question Chef. Sorry. No of course not. That would be like saying Robert Horry is better than Michael Jordan because he has more rings. That is just silly. But when are comparing the elite players against one another than yes you do judge them by championships.

It isn't just me who thinks that. When you are comparing historically great players often times the way to differentiate the best of the best is by championships.

You don't use a Championship to measure player A a to player B per se. It is how you measure greatness.

So when you talk about the greatest QB performances of all time I think a national championship is the top prerequisite. That is why I think Cam's is the best.

Again sorry your question must have gotten lost in the shuffle. :)

[chef17]

I missed that question Chef. Sorry. No of course not. That would be like saying Robert Horry is better than Michael Jordan because he has more rings. That is just silly. But when are comparing the elite players against one another than yes you do judge them by championships.

It isn't just me who thinks that. When you are comparing historically great players often times the way to differentiate the best of the best is by championships.

You don't use a Championship to measure player A a to player B per se. It is how you measure greatness.

So when you talk about the greatest QB performances of all time I think a national championship is the top prerequisite. That is why I think Cam's is the best.

Again sorry your question must have gotten lost in the shuffle. :)

No worries just thought were dodging the question :p

I agree a championship should be a component, but I don't think it is the end all be all. The guys TRD listed all had impressive numbers. When talking about the greatest QB performance I just don't think not winning a championship instantly makes Cam's season better. For instance, a QB could put up 50 points a game, but if his defense allows 55 every game they will never win. The QB would have a great season even tho his team didn't win a game. Now that is just an extreme example of course. But it shows that you have to look at much more than just whether this guy won a championship or not.

[Davidson Deac II]

He picked Boller. Just saying.

He also won a Superbowl. Just sayin :)

If you look at the draft record of any coach or gm, there are probably several "Boller's" among their selections.

[TheRealDeal]

To be fair Boller had no weapons. Not one. They trotted out 5 linemen, Boller, and a FB and RB. That's it. 8 players.

Not sure many people would do well in that situation. Add to it he wasn't as good as where he got picked and it's a recipe for disaster.

On a side note, I've played golf with him a few times and he's a really genuinely nice guy and I wish him nothing but the best.

[Mr. Scot]

Boller was a Jeff Tedford QB. They pretty much never succeed at the pro level.

They tend to look great at the college level though. That's why they keep getting drated.

[TheRealDeal]

Boller was a Jeff Tedford QB. They pretty much never succeed at the pro level.

They tend to look great at the college level though. That's why they keep getting drated.

A ROD begs to differ but I know what you are saying.

Boller was a beast in HS (went to same HS as MM), set all kinds of records and I think when he got to Cal his throwing motion changed a little and he was never the same. It seemed to make him terribly inaccurate.

Saw him this past offseason at a golf tourney in SD hosted by Brees and he seems content with his life so more power to him. He did make 19mil as a young man and just married Mrs California so I don't know how much he has to worry about.

[rayzor]

how long has he been looking for a real job?

sorry...billick is just another voice in the crowd. doesn't really matter what he says, but go ahead and pretend his opinion matters, though. it's kind of cute.

[TheRealDeal]

how long has he been looking for a real job?

sorry...billick is just another voice in the crowd. doesn't really matter what he says, but go ahead and pretend his opinion matters, though. it's kind of cute.

Someone is late to the party.

The whole point was none of these guys' opinion matters but every single one of them gets a thread. It's ridiculous.

But I understand you just got off your shift at Burger King and need to catch up on the day's postings. Continue.

[csx]

how long has he been looking for a real job?

sorry...billick is just another voice in the crowd. doesn't really matter what he says, but go ahead and pretend his opinion matters, though. it's kind of cute.

His opinion means a lot more than yours. A ton more.

[Raskle]

I missed that question Chef. Sorry. No of course not. That would be like saying Robert Horry is better than Michael Jordan because he has more rings. That is just silly. But when are comparing the elite players against one another than yes you do judge them by championships.

It isn't just me who thinks that. When you are comparing historically great players often times the way to differentiate the best of the best is by championships.

You don't use a Championship to measure player A a to player B per se. It is how you measure greatness.

So when you talk about the greatest QB performances of all time I think a national championship is the top prerequisite. That is why I think Cam's is the best.

Again sorry your question must have gotten lost in the shuffle. :)

Strange...

In my opinion, greatness isn't defined by how many rings you have, but by how much you pick up the play of your team overall by just being out there with them. Some good examples would be Marino, Moose Johnston, Lynn Swann, and our own Beason. 2 out of 4 of these guys don't have a ring, but when they're out there and lining up, there is a marked difference in how well the rest of the guys play.

Keep in mind, this is a team sport, and if you don't have all the pieces in place, and a whole hell of a lot of luck, you may not win any rings in your career. Also, some of the great ones were in an NFL before there even was such a thing as free agency. The team that drafted you generally conducted your football life regardless of what the player wanted. Does it make them any less "great" because of poor decisions made by management?

Would you like to tell Barry Sanders he wasn't great? I mean... don't think he ever got a ring, did he? Or maybe tell Beason he isn't as well? Just some food for thought :)

[CatMan72]

His comment about being an entertainer and icon are cause for concern, but I don't see why his media workout is a problem, especially since he's also agreed to throw at the combine?