Panthers Bringing in Newton for Visit

[YourMomsLover]

Auburn-Newton= No chance at NC

Auburn-Fairley= Still a chance but of course not guaranteed.

I think his point was without Newton Aurburn would have been what it was for years, middle of the road. He's right IMO it probably was one of the best seasons for a college QB in history (I wont say the best but it was up there)

I agree with 50% of your post. Even though Im an ACC fan...it was still nice to see them win it for the SEC.

[teeray]

Winning championships is a team thing isn't it? In college it matters even less since the national championship is decided by some computer.

Those guys all dominated Cam statistically and they it's clear they had better seasons.

Are you going to answer whether you think Dan Marino is better than Joe Montana or just deflect the question that ends you whole debate?

[YourMomsLover]

So Dan Marino is better than Joe Montana. He dominated him statistically. Good to know for your future credibility. Wilt Chamberlain is better than Bill Russell/Michael Jordan.

I thought we judged people on championships.

So Cam doesn't get any credit for winning a national championship?

Yea. But he didnt do it by himself...I think none of the above should be given credit for winning a national championship. Would you agree that Drew Brees won the SB for the Saints?

[teeray]

Yea we all know Cam and his amazing feet won the championship! It had nothing to do Fairley and that stud D. /sarcasm

It's amazing how people so quickly forgets that Auburn's defense was actually pretty average an at times down right bad.

They were 53rd in points allowed. Some of that is their offensive style but Oregon played a similar style in the far superior Pac-10 (according to TRD) and was 12th in the nation in points allowed.

So.... defense didn't win them the national championship.

[YourMomsLover]

It's amazing how people so quickly forgets that Auburn's defense was actually pretty average an at times down right bad.

They were 53rd in points allowed. Some of that is their offensive style but Oregon played a similar style in the far superior Pac-10 (according to TRD) and was 12th in the nation in points allowed.

So.... defense didn't win them the national championship.

Im glad you find me amazing.

You might as well not put a defense on the field ...Cam will pick up the slack.

[chef17]

So Dan Marino is better than Joe Montana. He dominated him statistically. Good to know for your future credibility. Wilt Chamberlain is better than Bill Russell/Michael Jordan.

I thought we judged people on championships.

So Cam doesn't get any credit for winning a national championship?

So Trent Dilfer is better than Marino just because he won a Superbowl?

[jramsey4]

I agree with 50% of your post. Even though Im an ACC fan...it was still nice to see them win it for the SEC.

I'm assuming your talking about the without Newton they had no shot. My ? to you is how many QB's in NCAA history have even close to Newton's ability? I would say close to none. The guy was straight up unstoppable it seemed.

Now does that guarantee success at the next level? Of course not but neither does what Luck did at Stanford and yet he is hyped as the best qb in decades. The bottom line to me is he brings to the table the 3 things I want in a franchise QB.

1: Work Ethic: Every team member and coach for both of his last 2 stops (Blinn and Auburn) praises his relentless work ethic. 2: Leadership: All his teammates and coaches (and even kids he has mentored since at Auburn) loves being in the same room or field as him. 3: Physical Ability: To me he is a once in a lifetime athlete at the QB position. He kind of reminds me of Pep in that he is one of those rare athletes that could probably excel at any position on the field. And forget the speed or mobility and he still has a rocket laugher for an arm and tremendous deep ball placement (could be huge for the O we are trying to implement) and a absolutely towering size (he easily shrugs off would be tacklers and can see over any line).

To me he has the most upside of any QB in recent memory. But of course he also has bust potential but I just think it is time this team took a risk and stopped running scared when it came to the QB position.

[YourMomsLover]

Im glad you find me amazing.

You might as well not put a defense on the field ...Cam will pick up the slack.

My arguement is this is not an individual sport. And that shouldnt even be an arguement IMO.

[YourMomsLover]

I'm assuming your talking about the without Newton they had no shot. My ? to you is how many QB's in NCAA history have even close to Newton's ability? I would say close to none. The guy was straight up unstoppable it seemed.

Now does that guarantee success at the next level? Of course not but neither does what Luck did at Stanford and yet he is hyped as the best qb in decades. The bottom line to me is he brings to the table the 3 things I want in a franchise QB.

1: Work Ethic: Every team member and coach for both of his last 2 stops (Blinn and Auburn) praises his relentless work ethic. 2: Leadership: All his teammates and coaches (and even kids he has mentored since at Auburn) loves being in the same room or field as him. 3: Physical Ability: To me he is a once in a lifetime athlete at the QB position. He kind of reminds me of Pep in that he is one of those rare athletes that could probably excel at any position on the field. And forget the speed or mobility and he still has a rocket laugher for an arm and tremendous deep ball placement (could be huge for the O we are trying to implement) and a absolutely towering size (he easily shrugs off would be tacklers and can see over any line).

To me he has the most upside of any QB in recent memory. But of course he also has bust potential but I just think it is time this team took a risk and stopped running scared when it came to the QB position.

You definitely cant rule out work ethic as a nice trait. Jake Delhomme was a master at work ethic...he just didnt have the skills ( and no Im not comparing the 2)

[DaCityKats]

So Trent Dilfer is better than Marino just because he won a Superbowl?

no, what he was meaing was that although BB was the coach and he views cam as one way. his qb views him another way. and basically you can be a winner on the stats page, but if you cant win the big one who gives a fug about you.

[teeray]

Yea. But he didnt do it by himself...I think none of the above should be given credit for winning a national championship. Would you agree that Drew Brees won the SB for the Saints?

The amount of teams that have won without an elite QB are few and far between.

A lot of people blamed Jake for our troubles two years ago. QB gets the credit and the blame. It comes with the job. So he should get extra credit for going undefeated and winning a national championship.

Otherwise, the 2007 Patriots is the second best team in NFL history. would you agree with that??

[teeray]

You might as well not put a defense on the field ...Cam will pick up the slack.

You must be referring to the Arkansas game when they didn't put a defense on the field. And yeah he did pick up the slack.

[YourMomsLover]

The amount of teams that have won without an elite QB are few and far between.

A lot of people blamed Jake for our troubles two years ago. QB gets the credit and the blame. It comes with the job. So he should get extra credit for going undefeated and winning a national championship.

Otherwise, the 2007 Patriots is the second best team in NFL history. would you agree with that??

He should get SOME credit yes. Jake wouldnt have done it without SS89 though.

And Cam Newton has little marble balls compared to Tom Brady and his watermelon nuts, plus his legion of WRs. And I believe they had a nice ground attack as well...

[YourMomsLover]

you must be referring to the arkansas game when they didn't put a defense on the field. And yeah he did pick up the slack.

in college!