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Panthers sign Hunter Renfrow

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Panthers signed WR Hunter Renfrow.
The 2019 fifth-rounder spent five seasons with the Raiders before spending last year in semi-retirement. He produced a career-best season in 2021, catching 103-of-124 targets for 1,038 yards and nine touchdowns. Renfrow has 1,881 slot snaps and 709 perimeter snaps to his name, though he curiously performs more efficiently, on a per-route basis, when lined up as a perimeter receiver. If he has anything left in the tank, the 29-year-old Renfrow may be able to compete for the team’s No. 4 wide receiver role. He is unlikely to perform as a reliable flex option, though.
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I'm not sure he makes the roster, TBH. He's a name at this point, but I'm not sure what he brings to the table that we don't already have with Adam Thielen. I suspect we keep 6 WRs this year:

LOCKS:
T-Mac
XL
Thielen
Coker

LIKELY:
Horn Jr. (as a return specialist if nothing else)

That only really leaves one open WR spot between Renfrow, Moore, Jacolby George, Kobe Hudson and Moose III.

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I love this signing. He was a solid player for years with Oakland. He does his job well, problem is he basically just plays slot. If nothing else he’s a good camp body to have. If there’s an injury then he’s a experienced WR we can use as a back up plan.

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3 hours ago, ForJimmy said:

Ah yes, that Gamecock defense was elite...

I mean, I was not so subtly just trying to just get a shot in at the Gamecocks. 

but if you want it vs mighty Bama in National Title games…

7 rec, 88 yard, 2 TDs. 

10 rec, 92 yards, 2 TDs.  

Bama had no answer for him either. 

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3 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I'm not sure he makes the roster, TBH. He's a name at this point, but I'm not sure what he brings to the table that we don't already have with Adam Thielen. I suspect we keep 6 WRs this year:

LOCKS:
T-Mac
XL
Thielen
Coker

LIKELY:
Horn Jr. (as a return specialist if nothing else)

That only really leaves one open WR spot between Renfrow, Moore, Jacolby George, Kobe Hudson and Moose III.

The final spot has to be between Renfrow and Moore and pending how he looks after the year off, I might lean Renfrow.

We now have our offense of the future in place if they pan out, this season has one main goal and it's expediting the growth of this very young group of skill position players.  

Chuba, Rico, and Tremble have each played 4 seasons (all the others are 2 or less) and are the most experienced skill position players on the team other than Dalton, Thielen, Moore, and now Renfrow.  With Moore and Renfrow then being cut at the expense of one of those UDFA's if we kept one.

Having Dalton and Thielen as the only two skill position players on the active roster with more than 4 years of experience, and only 3 others with more than 2, doesn't seem smart.

We don't need more lottery tickets, coaches can only do/teach so much, we need vets for these guys to learn from so we get the best out of them and have our offense for hopefully the next 5-8 years in place pending being able to afford them all.

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nothing against him, but i hope he doesn't make the team unless he blows the doors off everyone. 

i just don't like the idea of us being in such shape that we let a guy who took a year off last year get a roster spot. i'm sure he had good reasons, but i'm more interested in seeing the younger guys get a shot or David Moore since he proved himself last year with us. 

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I don’t get it. He doesn’t threaten a defense at this point. He just takes what they want to give him. Maybe we’re playing 4D chess with Tepper’s money and are bringing him in to show the young guys what’s possible with great footwork? Trying him out as a coach-in-waiting? Otherwise…meh.

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1 hour ago, theinstrumental said:

I don’t get it. He doesn’t threaten a defense at this point. He just takes what they want to give him. Maybe we’re playing 4D chess with Tepper’s money and are bringing him in to show the young guys what’s possible with great footwork? Trying him out as a coach-in-waiting? Otherwise…meh.

I mean, he is a slot technician.  That's what he does.  So, in a good offense, you would be trotting him out there on 3rd downs and situationally.....to not take what they give him but to move chains.  It's a niche. 

AT hasn't threatened defenses in years. 

Last time we saw Renfrow on the field he averaged..... 6 yards YAC per catch. 

Adam Thielen last year averaged....2 yards in YAC per catch last year. 

I still contend in reality, AT isn't a slot WR.  Not in reality.  He is an aging rec TE.  And those aren't the same thing.  AT simply can't generate quick separation or provide YAC.    

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1 hour ago, csx said:

I don't see any harm in it. I just don't get the whole replace Thielen thing.

he averaged 2 yards in YAC per reception last year.  He can't generate quick separation.  He was debating retirement last year.    Yet we champion him as some great option.   

AT is a savvy vet we force feed the ball too......on a team starved for basic offense the last couple seasons.  We overrated AT.  Which is why some freak when people like JT on his podcast point out the painfully obvious about him.   

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14 hours ago, Jay Roosevelt said:

I'm not sure he makes the roster, TBH. He's a name at this point, but I'm not sure what he brings to the table that we don't already have with Adam Thielen. I suspect we keep 6 WRs this year:

LOCKS:
T-Mac
XL
Thielen
Coker

LIKELY:
Horn Jr. (as a return specialist if nothing else)

That only really leaves one open WR spot between Renfrow, Moore, Jacolby George, Kobe Hudson and Moose III.

Exactly what I'm thinking, but might keep 7 on final cuts, then place one on PS to get down to 6 active

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